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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #75 on: January 29, 2012, 21:29:37 »
Then this Zinck character can house him , feed him, clothe him, educate him and all that.
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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #76 on: January 30, 2012, 06:43:14 »
Then this Zinck character can house him , feed him, clothe him, educate him and all that.
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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #77 on: January 30, 2012, 15:02:46 »
So sad that he will never come close to enjoying the carefree, fun times as a young pre-teen.  The morally decrepit system has robbed him of the joy he once knew.  He looked so happy back then...poor Omar.  :'(



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The latest....
« Reply #78 on: March 29, 2012, 06:50:47 »
.... from an unnamed (U.S.?) official:
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A "frustrated" Omar Khadr could be back in Canada by the end of May, with both Ottawa and Washington poised to approve his transfer from Guantanamo Bay, where the convicted war criminal has been held for almost a decade, The Canadian Press has learned.

A source familiar with the file said U.S. Secretary of Defence Leon Panetta was expected to sign off on the transfer within a week.

"It's on his desk, it's ready," the source said Wednesday. "The U.S. has no concerns about (Khadr)."

Khadr has been caught up in a bureaucratic "Catch-22" since becoming eligible to leave the American prison on Cuba last October under terms of a plea agreement struck a year earlier.

The Toronto-born Khadr, 25, pleaded guilty before a much maligned U.S. military commission to five war crimes he committed as a 15-year-old in Afghanistan in July 2002.

In exchange, the Canadian citizen was given an eight-year sentence, with one year to be served in Guantanamo Bay and the remainder in Canada.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper's government has been in no hurry to approve the transfer request, which Khadr's lawyers submitted to both governments a year ago.

Instead, the source said, Ottawa has been scrutinizing the application far more closely than required, looking at issues such as his parole eligibility, which would essentially be almost immediate.

"I think they have stalled the proceedings — the U.S. would have sent him home a lot earlier if things had been worked out in Canada," the source said ....
The Canadian Press, 28 Mar 12
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Apparently, the formal "ask" is in
« Reply #79 on: April 18, 2012, 11:05:29 »
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The Canadian government has received a formal request for the transfer of convicted war criminal Omar Khadr from Guantanamo Bay to Canada, Ottawa confirmed Wednesday.

A spokeswoman for Public Safety Minister Vic Toews said Ottawa is now considering the request.

"The government of Canada has just received a completed application for the transfer of prisoner Omar Ahmed Khadr," spokeswoman Julie Carmichael said.

"A decision will be made on this file in accordance with Canadian law."

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According to a source familiar with the application, the Americans have been pressing Canada to accept the Toronto-born Khadr. Sources have said the delay has complicated commission proceedings against other Guantanamo inmates because it has made them reluctant to strike their own plea deals.

"The United States basically asked Canada for a diplomatic favour and Canada previously agreed to look at a request of this nature favourably," one source said.

"The U.S. needs to get rid of this guy for their own reasons."

According to the source, the Americans are "bending over backwards" to ensure Khadr's exit from Guantanamo Bay and will have to "bend their way around a number of their own rules" to make that happen.

At the same time, the source suggested, Toews has little choice but to accept Khadr's return, which would happen at U.S. expense.

Should Khadr remain in Guantanamo for his full sentence, he would be able to return to Canada and walk the streets without any restrictions, the source said ....
The Canadian Press, 18 Apr 12
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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #80 on: April 18, 2012, 14:46:17 »
Please, say NO !

Hey! I live in Montreal, where the rest of the family still at large lives.

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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #81 on: April 18, 2012, 14:51:40 »
Please, say NO !

Hey! I live in Montreal, where the rest of the family still at large lives.

They moved form Scarberia?

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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #82 on: April 18, 2012, 15:01:16 »
Didn't know they moved to Scarberia. Forget what I said.

..... But still say NO, please !!!

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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #83 on: April 20, 2012, 10:29:49 »
..... But still say NO, please !!!
Not a "no", but no details on "when" or "how" yet, either....
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Convicted al-Qaida terrorist and killer Omar Khadr is coming home.

Public Safety Minister Vic Toews said Thursday the government won't block the transfer of Khadr from a cell in the Caribbean to a Canadian prison.

Toews squelched speculation the government was considering using a clause in the International Transfer of Offenders Act to keep the 25-year-old, Toronto-born Khadr out of Canada on national security grounds.

"Under the International Transfer of Offenders Act, he is a Canadian citizen. He is also a Canadian citizen under the Charter which entitles him to come back to Canada, eventually," Toews told QMI Agency.

"The issue is when does he come back to Canada? That's a determination I have to make and I haven't made any decision in that respect yet."

( .... )

The transfer documents landed on Toew's desk this week.

Under Canadian law, he would be eligible for parole next year after completing one-third of his sentence and statutory release after completing two-thirds.

Toews said it would be up to the National Parole Board to decide when to integrate Khadr back into society ....
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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #84 on: April 20, 2012, 10:41:05 »
Bring him home and deny his parole until the full sentence is completed.
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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #85 on: April 20, 2012, 10:42:31 »
Bring him home and deny his parole until the full sentence is completed.

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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #86 on: April 20, 2012, 10:45:25 »
Lock him up in Kingston Pen.......oh, wait.
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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #87 on: April 20, 2012, 13:53:07 »
Compromise - KPH  ;D.

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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #88 on: April 20, 2012, 17:09:58 »
Lock him up in Kingston Pen.......oh, wait.

No that could still work. It will be some time between closing the place and actually tearing it down or converting it into a Walmart or Condos or whatver the plan is. It's probably a heritage building so that should double the paper shuffling involved. We could be talking decades here.

Lock him in his cell , before the last guard is gone and just leave him there.... without power, lights, heat, plumbing, food........eventually the problem will resolve itself. >:D
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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #89 on: April 20, 2012, 19:11:16 »
Was going to say something about giving him some diving lessons into the bay from the Guard Towers, but remembered this was an open forum...guess I still have a problem with people that blow up medics.

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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #90 on: April 20, 2012, 19:14:37 »
   I agree....  MM          :goodpost:

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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #91 on: April 20, 2012, 19:24:35 »
He was a an IED maker at 14. He was 15 almost 16 when he murdered a medic on a battlefield.

He is now a 100% certified jihadi with a Canadian passport who will soon be walking the streets of Canada and being celebrated by the various Leftoids talking heads and the CBC.


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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #92 on: April 20, 2012, 19:35:17 »
So sad that he will never come close to enjoying the carefree, fun times as a young pre-teen.  The morally decrepit system has robbed him of the joy he once knew.  He looked so happy back then...poor Omar.  :'(



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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #93 on: April 21, 2012, 15:11:16 »
He was a an IED maker at 14. He was 15 almost 16 when he murdered a medic on a battlefield.

He is now a 100% certified jihadi with a Canadian passport who will soon be walking the streets of Canada and being celebrated by the various Leftoids talking heads and the CBC.



How do you counter this? Publish the truth about him and his terrorist family, on the open forums.
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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #94 on: April 21, 2012, 15:56:18 »
How do you counter this? Publish the truth about him and his terrorist family, on the open forums.

And then Mike gets to defend that truth when all the lawyers who are lining up to represent this poor misunderstood boy get hold of it.  The truth hurts, and not always those it's aimed at.
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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #95 on: April 21, 2012, 18:40:07 »
And then Mike gets to defend that truth when all the lawyers who are lining up to represent this poor misunderstood boy get hold of it.  The truth hurts, and not always those it's aimed at.

Pardon me, not this one. Letters to the editors of newpapers, you MLA, MP etc.

I misspoke and I apologize.

Back to my points - we know his father was a fund raiser for AQ, and I am going to assume that we have proof his brothers were linked to AQ, right? Just need references.
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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #97 on: April 22, 2012, 05:52:09 »
Everyone needs to get used to the ideas that:

1. Our, Canadian, legal system is different from the one in the USA and it, broadly the Canadian legal system, is "offended" by the whole Guantanamo episode in the US and will, most likely, treat Khadr as a young man who has been, at best, improperly tried and punished; and

2. Omar Khard will, soon, be on our streets as, at worst, a man who has "paid his debt to society" and he will be entitled to the full protection that our society offers - including the protection the CF provides for all Canadians.

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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #98 on: April 22, 2012, 05:55:40 »
My skin crawls at the thought of him freely walking the same streets as my children.

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Re: Omar Khadr makes bid for return to Canada
« Reply #99 on: April 22, 2012, 09:13:16 »
Can their citizenship be revoked ?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/rules/tool_03.asp

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