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Re: Blood Bananas and Ethical oil
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2011, 22:53:01 »
Actually, that's pretty much what I said - that it was proobably a non-story. And hey, it looks like I was right.

You've bought into Chiquita trying to save face. They wrote a letter to an environmental group, it got leaked. Canada spoke up. Chiquita tries to save face by saying it was misinformation.

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Re: Blood Bananas and Ethical oil
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2011, 23:18:53 »
Nothing like a little sunshine to wilt the "narrative". Chiquita will probably discover this issue raised for years whenever they make a statement now that the blogosphere has gripped it.

The wonders of post progressivism is the self serving "narative" of any group can be rapidly subjected to fact checking and the reply crowdsourced beyond the ability of a PR department to deal with. People who buy into the "narrative" will also be subjected to a high degree of cognative dissonence as they try to respond to a wide range of contrary facts, figures, persnal anecdotes and other contrary information (although the common responses always seem to be  ad hominem attacks on the person(s) presenting the news, asserting their version is the truth without presenting any supporting facts or figures, attempting to redirect the argument to something else or simply dropping the subject rather than facing the contrary evidence).

Chiquita attempted to curry favour with environmentalists and climate alarmists, got caught doing so and are now backpedaling in an effort to prevent a PR disaster. Given the speed Chiquita reacted, the mere threat of a blogosphere inspired boycot focused the minds of executives very quickly.
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Re: Blood Bananas and Ethical oil
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2011, 23:28:28 »
I need the cheap oil for my 49 gas sucking cylinders!!!  I actually checked the banana brand today and was pleased to see it was Doles.  I probably would have bought whatever was there, but the emotional response of slight satisfaction at not seeing Chiquita was there.
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Re: Blood Bananas and Ethical oil
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2011, 02:58:38 »
You've bought into Chiquita trying to save face. They wrote a letter to an environmental group, it got leaked. Canada spoke up. Chiquita tries to save face by saying it was misinformation.

Ding, ding, ding.

Call it what you want, they got caught out and obviously, at least to me, the reaction warranted a release from them.

But I suppose that's easily explainable to some, eh?
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Re: Blood Bananas and Ethical oil
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2011, 05:53:12 »
I personally don't care what brand of bananas end up in my fridge. In fact if I asked my wife (who does the majority of shopping it...read all of it) it would come down to what brand was cheaper per pound. To tell you the truth I wouldn't know the difference as I rarely inspect the sticker that ends up in the trash 2.4 seconds after I decide to eat a banana.

I really don't care if slave labour has been used...just give me cheap produce.

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Re: Blood Bananas and Ethical oil
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2011, 09:47:05 »
You've bought into Chiquita trying to save face. They wrote a letter to an environmental group, it got leaked. Canada spoke up. Chiquita tries to save face by saying it was misinformation.

Saving face? They answered the boycotters by issuing a statement which said essentially the same thing as their initial correspondence that touched off the whole thing. That isn't exactly backpedalling. If anything the other group took it as being more than what it was.
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Re: Blood Bananas and Ethical oil
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2011, 10:09:57 »
<shrug> A non-issue on both sides. I think Chiquita's as full of crap as the so-called 'Ethical Oil' lobby. Chiquita just sucks at PR.

It's an amusing pissing match though.
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Re: Blood Bananas and Ethical oil
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2011, 12:47:55 »
Saving face? They answered the boycotters by issuing a statement which said essentially the same thing as their initial correspondence that touched off the whole thing. That isn't exactly backpedalling. If anything the other group took it as being more than what it was.

They didn't answer the boycotters, they answered the negative press that the boycotters caused. Their statement didn't say essentially the same thing. The new statement is that they'll continue to use Canadian Oil. Their previous statement said that they would:

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Chiquita2 has committed to identify any connections between Chiquita’s fuel providers and Tar Sands refineries and to pursue the goal of eliminating fuel from those providers that is connected to Tar Sands refineries
http://forestethics.org/major-companies-act-to-clean-up-their-transportation-footprints

If that's not trying to mitigate a PR blunder and save face, then I don't know what is. Chiquita got caught making dumb comments to appease the Eco-Left and now they're paying for it in the court of public opinion.

As a side note, the ForestEthics site has a real nice list of companies that I'll be avoiding due to their irrational stance on TarSands. Most are American but Avon is pretty big in Canada.