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Offline Kalatzi

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http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/59927-canadian-soldiers-blowing-up-an-afghan-villagers-house-for-fun

Ummm, without any more background several questions come to mind.

I assume that thate is a perfectly valid reason reason for doing this.

Posting this video on youtube without some substantiation of above perfectly valid reason, causes me to call into question the ummm judgement of some of the individuals in the film.

Where was Command??


*mod edit to threat title to indicate nature of subject video"
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A few blocks of C-4 don't go up like that. A weapons cache of HME and arty rounds controlled BIP. (hear where he said I'm gonna go down at check it right at the end...thats for unexploded ordinance left and if the bip was a success) Or it could have been a building rigged to blow with a pressure plate in the door and they bip'ed the thing cause...well..playing around in booby trapped houses has never really gone well for many people.

The witch hunt has started.....I think whoever uploaded this should be trailed for slander of the brave Echo C/S's who BIP's this thing risking their lifes.

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He also apparently believes a reptilian bloodline rules the word...so....really?

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He also believes cancer is a fungus....imagine that.

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Dogger1936

Thanks - Watching it again it certainly was more than a couple of blocks of C4.

My earlier comments about the lack of substantiation stand.

Who Knows - maybe this stuff is all over youtube, I have NO interest in looking for it.

I just think back to all the talk of the "Stratgic Corporal" - make that Servicemember

Human nature this stuff unexplained seems to undo a pile of good.


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Absolutely.

However if they were blowing it for "fun" they would not have enough c-4 to do their job of disarming huge  IED's placed by talib's who kill and mame unexpecting civilians, and many times our own men/women by rigging buildings.

While I was not at this specific BIP it was either a few things:

Building was rigged to blow. I've seen this 7 times with about the same results as in the video. Little c-4 and boom.

Chalked full of HME (i.e a bomb factory.)

Any civilians left in the bast zone would have been ushered away from the scene and security would have been placed around the BIP to prevent anyone from watching our Echo's do the brave work they do OR walk into the BIP zone.

While it may have been "fun" to BIP this house; it was fun only due to denying the taliban another kill of an innocent life.

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causes me to call into question the ummm judgement of some of the individuals in the film.

Where was Command??

Maybe you just need to STFU.

From a questionable blog and a short video, you managed to tell that troops did something wrong and that the chain of command was not doing anything about it. Great job.

"Ahh..... F**k it....weapon away !!"

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It's things like this that make people think of us as simply war mongers and baby killers yet refuse to speak to the real people behind the uniforms to get the truth.

Sure there's always a couple bad apples but you get that everywhere, we're humans with free will - not machines.
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It's things like this

Things like what ?

I see something blowing up and people cheering. Nothing wrong with either one.
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Maybe you just need to STFU.

From a questionable blog and a short video, you managed to tell that troops did something wrong and that the chain of command was not doing anything about it. Great job.

+100.

It's obviously a controlled det which Dogger has already called - certainly not an impromptu "let's just blow up this house for shiggles moment."  Nice controlled detonation of a weapons cache and that's all it is; nothing nefarious given the big boom that goes with it. CF troops can't afford to expend money on the amount of C4 it would have taken to make that big a boom  ... especially if their only interest was destroying the "family" home; the house would have been destroyed using a much smaller boom if it were actually the target. The size of the boom in this video itself proves it wasn't --- it was what was cached in that building that caused the huge boom with a little help from a little C4 from us.
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Things like what ?

I see something blowing up and people cheering. Nothing wrong with either one.

The "things" I was referring to was blindly accusing them of blowing up a family home for a hard-on
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Things like what ?


I think she's referring to the blog post itself, not the video.
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The "things" I was referring to was blindly accusing them of blowing up a family home for a hard-on

Ok, thank you. Sorry i took it differently.
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Ok, thank you. Sorry i took it differently.

Nah, it's no big deal. I didn't really write for ease of clarity etc. My statement wasn't very clear as to which subject matter I am displease with.  ;)


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Nothing more than a conspiracy theorist reposting propaganda from Iran's internet TV outlet.
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And then you go the actual link for the youtube video and the subtitle for the video by the person who posted it is

"May Allah swt destroy them by the hand of Mujahideen, Ameen."

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So that's probably got something to do with "why" the perfectly valid reason is not explained.
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A few blocks of C-4 don't go up like that. A weapons cache of HME and arty rounds controlled BIP. (hear where he said I'm gonna go down at check it right at the end...thats for unexploded ordinance left and if the bip was a success) Or it could have been a building rigged to blow with a pressure plate in the door and they bip'ed the thing cause...well..playing around in booby trapped houses has never really gone well for many people.

The witch hunt has started.....I think whoever uploaded this should be trailed for slander of the brave Echo C/S's who BIP's this thing risking their lifes.

HME??

BIP??
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AF guy: HME = home made explosives. Usually diesel fuel and ammonia nitrate fertilizer or something of the sort. Very potent. BIP is 'blow in place'. "He, we found a bomb. BIP it."



Yeah, this video's gone viral and is cropping up all over the place. Nice bit of propaganda by the Iranians if PressTV is the original source...
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AF guy: HME = home made explosives. Usually diesel fuel and ammonia nitrate fertilizer or something of the sort. Very potent. BIP is 'blow in place'. "He, we found a bomb. BIP it."

Thanks for the update.
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Maybe you just need to STFU.

From a questionable blog and a short video, you managed to tell that troops did something wrong and that the chain of command was not doing anything about it. Great job.

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Witch Hunt is right.

Youtube is now being scoured by people looking for videos they can take out of context and repost shouting 'OMG look at this! Nato out of afghanistan! repost if you agree'

I saw a man blow himself up on purpose and the only person he hurt was himself. No one cared, big fail.
It was one of the funniest things I've ever seen and we laughed about it for 2 weeks.

Unless someone has been exposed to the high stress life or death situations soldiers are exposed to and develop the same sense of humor that soldiers, police officers, paramedics, fire fighters, jail guards etc.  do then they need to stop seeing a laughing soldier and automatically assume they approve of peeing on POWs doing the human caterpillars and throwing puppies off cliffs.

Kalatzi why the hell were you on that garbage website anyways? You couldn't at least post a video directly from youtube?
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We don't know who originally took the video, but its a good chanced it was a Canadian soldier, who may have sent it friends. However, someone else got hold of it, and reposted it with the express purpose of defaming Canadian soldiers. A good illustration of the pratfalls of taking videos while in theatre and not being careful who you send them to.
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