Topic: Component Transfer-Occupation Transfer to Regular Force

[kimbrian]

Hi 
I'm a naval reservist in Toronto (00166 MUSN) and I was enrolled in June 2011
and completed my BMQ during the 2011 summer.
I'm 19, a highschool graduate with gr 12 average 91% and currently attending university studying International Relations.
I've basically fell in love with the military after BMQ experience and my hopeful plan is this:

Finish my QL3, QL4, National Band Naval Reserve during the entire summer of 2012 (will be promoted to Leading Seaman).
Transfer as soon as it's possible to regular force (army preferred).
Serve as an NCM
After years of service, aim for UTPNCM to become an officer.
Serve for life.
(fingers crossed).


But first of all, I know that I have to start my CT-OT process as soon as possible because it takes a loooong time...
(I'm expecting a year or much more... With the security clearance and all....)

So, this Wednesday, I'm going to go in during admin night to:
request CT-OT to regular force
commence my security clearance lvl 2 or lvl 3.

The trades that I've been research a whole lot about and considering are:
Infantry soldier
Armoured soldier
Intelligence Operator (army)

I'm leaning more towards INT-OP vs ARMOURED.
The reason being that infantry already has more than enough
and I know that there are tons of experienced PRes Infanteers that has been waiting for years for component transfer....


These are my concerned with the two targeted trades.

INT-OP
I know that being a ncm in the CF already doing CT makes me relatively a good pick(?)
but I'm concerned that spots opening in April 2012 are limited
and that there would be INT-OP applicants that already hold a university degree or college diploma.

I do have INT-OP's desired assets as I speak fluent Korean, English, and French (oral, reading, and writing).
I've experienced a lot of multiculturalism as I've traveled to Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, Hong Kong, Australia, Japan,
and live in Korea for 10 years of my youth.
My primary interest and skill lies in languages, international relations, different people and cultures all around the world.
Which is why I felt that INT-OP was a suitable for me.

Do I have a chance of being transferred to Intelligence Operator even though I'm just a high school graduate and have no experience as an intelligence operator in the naval reserves?

Another concern regarding INT-OP is that the required security clearance level is 3.
I've read in the forum that for that high level of clearance, the entire process could take up to 3 years... Is that true?
If the CT-OT will take more than 3 years... I would move on to find my luck in the armoured corps.




ARMOURED SOLDIER

After researching, I get a feeling that I might have a better chance of being offered a spot in armoured as opposed to INT-OP...
This for the reason that I am a fitness freak and I love to better myself in physical abilities.
Also, going through security clearance lvl 2 would take a shorter amount of time compared to INT-OP
which means that IF the door to armoured opens up at April 2012 and I have my component transfer through,
I may have a chance of being transferred to the Reg F before 2013, which is a marvelous news for me!
However, as this trade is of the combat arms (which seems to attract men looking for job immensely),
I know that it is very competitive and in similar situation as the infantry.
Does anyone know how Armoured is doing with the preferred manning level vs recruitment? Will it open up in April 2012? Or will I most likely be waiting for April 2013?...



Cheers,

[George Wallace]

You would be best advised to look at the topics we have already set up on Component Transfers from the Reserve to Regular Force.  A quick look at this site and you will find all those topics.

A quick answer to one of your questions:  you are not going to be able to do a CT and OT to Int Op.  The Int Branch is only giving CTs to trained Int Ops, preferably those with Tours.

[SevenSixTwo]

Do crewman for 3 years and then if you still want to go Int Op then go for it.

[kimbrian]

Thank you. I will apply for Crewman.

[darkskye]

Promoted to LS in less then 3-4 years?

I thought 2 and a half years for AB and then after having all your qualifications and even more time in then you'll get promoted to LS?

Finish my QL3, QL4, National Band Naval Reserve during the entire summer of 2012 (will be promoted to Leading Seaman).
Transfer as soon as it's possible to regular force (army preferred).
Serve as an NCM
After years of service, aim for UTPNCM to become an officer.
Serve for life.
(fingers crossed).

[kimbrian]

Promoted to LS in less then 3-4 years?

I thought 2 and a half years for AB and then after having all your qualifications and even more time in then you'll get promoted to LS?

negative. Musicians in reserves rank up really quick.
QL3, QL 4, and NBNR.
I will be promoted to LS during NBNR

[-Skeletor-]

Everyone in the Reserves can get to Cpl/LS quickly, not just Musicians.

3-4 years(plus any req courses/quals) to Cpl/LS is the usual time needed in the Regular Force

[kimbrian]

I just got confirmation of transfer process to Comm Rsch in Reg F.
Will be doing my interview soon. Though I don't know that much about signalling, electronics, and computers,
I'm going to try my best to show them that I'm willing to learn everything they throw at me.

[-Skeletor-]

I thought you wanted Infantry, then Combat Arms in general, then Armour or Int Op, now you want Comm Research?

[CDN Aviator]

I thought you wanted Infantry, then Combat Arms in general, then Armour or Int Op, now you want Comm Research?

Just another guy grasping at whatever is open on that day. I bet i know how it works out.

[kimbrian]

well the whole thing is due to my colour vision (i'm CV3) which totally limited my choice of trades
and when I found out about my colour vision I began to look into ALL trades that accepted CV3 and there weren't many.
After reading a lot about each of those trades, the one that stood out the most (and the one I got the most positive feedback on from
unit people and supervisors) was comm rsch.
And since they're open and needing people at Pte level, I figured it would be an awesome job

[-Skeletor-]

Hopefully you did some research into what the trade does and are happy with it, going from wanting Combat Arms then deciding on Comm Research.. well the jobs are quite different.  If possible,  you might want to look into applying for your security clearance, I believe Comm Research requires Secret(Lvl 2) or Top Secret (Lvl 3).  From reading posts on the site, it seems a lot of people get stuck waiting for their security clearance to come through, and with out that they can't attend Part 2 of their QL3.

[Eye In The Sky]

Lev III (TS) with 2 more compartmented ones, and thats to be able to do the QL3 Pt II as well.  If you can't get the required clearance, you'll be looking at a Reassignment as you can't even complete QL3.

[Spectrum]

Lev III (TS) with 2 more compartmented ones, and thats to be able to do the QL3 Pt II as well.  If you can't get the required clearance, you'll be looking at a Reassignment as you can't even complete QL3.

Correct, you need Lvl III Special Access (SA)

99.9% chance he will not have a problem getting cleared in the end, it's just a matter of time.

[Eye In The Sky]

Correct, you need Lvl III Special Access (SA)

I know I'm correct, otherwise I wouldn't post it without saying "as far as I know" or words to that effect.

And its actually Lev III SA/TK.  Thats why I said 2 compartmented ones.

99.9% chance he will not have a problem getting cleared in the end, it's just a matter of time.

Well, its a few hoops to jump thru with more than one organization.  Not sure how they do it for CTs, but if I were the OP, I'd be asking my unit to start my Lev III and if they don't, I'd be asking the CFRC about it.  Its a trade pre-req afterall.

[armourhopeful]

If youre attending university, you might as well enroll in ROTP, and either complete your schooling civie side, or try and get into RMC. From what Ive heard theres more demand for armour officers than ncm's currently. Thats what I'd do in your position