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Acceptable Army Hair?
« on: February 05, 2012, 09:42:57 »
Hi guys, I'm thinking about joining the reserves and have a question about hair. My hair right now is down to my shoulders, and I have no problem getting it cut, but I'm just a bit confused about how short it has to be. I have acne (not a bit, but a lot) on my face and all over my head, and I have some scarring too, and longer hair helps to draw attention away from it, whereas shorter hair seems to magnify it. I hate the idea of short hair ruining my self esteem, because I have been bullied for my acne/big ears before, but I still want to join the army. I've seen army haircuts before and the short length just looks scary. Here's what I've read:

The Book is the CANADIAN FORCES DRESS INSTRUCTIONS A-AD-265-000/AG-001, dated 2002-10-04 (mod 1.)

Hair on the head shall be neatly groomed and conservatively styled. The length, bulk or style of hair shall not detract from a positive military appearance or preclude the proper wear of military headdress. (Bulk is the distance that the mass of hair extends from the skin, when groomed, as opposed to the length of hair.) In particular, style and colour shall not present a bizarre, exaggerated, or unusual appearance. Unusual colours, such as green, bright red, orange, purple, etc., are not permitted. Hair must be secured or styled back to reveal the face, and any accessories used to secure or control hair styles shall be as unobtrusive as possible. Hair ornaments shall not be worn, except women’s conservative barrettes which blend with thehair colour. Shaving of all of the hair on the head is permitted. The personal manner of wearing hair within these general style limits, including moustaches, beards and braids, shall be modified to the degree necessary to accommodate operational or occupational equipment, such as gas, oxygen and scuba masks, hard, combat and flying helmets, etc., where a member’s safety or mission is put in jeopardy.

The following additional details apply to specific groups to accord with religious and spiritual practices and public perceptions of a disciplined force:
a. Men (see Figure 2-2-1).
Hair shall be tapertrimmed at the back, sides, and above the ears to blend with the hair-style; be no more than 15 cm (6 in.) in length and sufficiently short that, when the hair is groomed and headdress is removed, no hair shall touch the ears or fall below the top of the eyebrows; be no more than 4 cm (1-1/2 in.) in bulk at the top of the head, gradually decreasing to blend with the taper-trimmed sides and back; and be kept free from the neck to a distance of 2.5 cm (1 in.) above the shirt collar. Taper trimmed square back styles and shaving of all the hair on the head are permitted.

So out of these, which ones would be okay?

1) http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=men%27s+tapered+haircut&start=34&num=10&um=1&hl=en&biw=1440&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbnid=ChfuwzDmFuDD0M:&imgrefurl=http://www.haircutshairstyles.com/celebrity-mens-hairstyles.shtml&docid=k_axTI8DcWXd3M&imgurl=http://pics.haircutshairstyles.com/img/photos/full/2009-07/taylor_lautner_short_layered_haircut371.jpg&w=225&h=300&ei=a48uT4vXOa7aiQKwttTgCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=584&vpy=434&dur=3923&hovh=240&hovw=180&tx=92&ty=132&sig=100439230851368422389&sqi=2&page=2&tbnh=143&tbnw=107&ndsp=43&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:34

2) http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=Akshaye+Khanna+Haircut&um=1&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1440&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbnid=pfroNCro2Ye_oM:&imgrefurl=http://www.bharatwaves.com/news/Venky-walks-the-ramp-with-King-fisher-models-8156.html&docid=BX8OzuADHSf3lM&imgurl=http://www.bharatwaves.com/portal/uploads/original_Akshaye-Khanna_47308b15da01a.jpg&w=470&h=300&ei=jo8uT6_uMqnciQKG49GsCg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=334&sig=100439230851368422389&page=1&tbnh=142&tbnw=179&start=0&ndsp=29&ved=1t:429,r:21,s:0&tx=137&ty=91

3) http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=Mens+medium+hair&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1440&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbnid=XCNPsB64ee91xM:&imgrefurl=http://www.menshaircuts.net/medium-long-hairstyles-for-men-2012/&docid=JOsTpQAXYRFXSM&imgurl=http://www.menshaircuts.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/messy1.jpg&w=400&h=362&ei=lpAuT62dI8iviQL93b2aCg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=485&sig=100439230851368422389&page=2&tbnh=143&tbnw=153&start=39&ndsp=47&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:39&tx=106&ty=49

4) In this picture, the guy on the left: http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=Long+army+hair&um=1&hl=en&biw=1440&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbnid=Pa7GQMkM-MzLLM:&imgrefurl=http://gocomics.typepad.com/the_sandbox/2007/12/peace-out.html&docid=98tPrHScFZ7YZM&imgurl=http://gocomics.typepad.com/the_sandbox/images/2007/12/13/framed_dude_peaceout_1_2.jpg&w=595&h=446&ei=MZMuT8WeBKnJiQLJ-aSuCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=345&vpy=185&dur=4165&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=162&ty=106&sig=100439230851368422389&page=1&tbnh=119&tbnw=164&start=0&ndsp=35&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0

5) http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=Long+army+hair&um=1&hl=en&biw=1440&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbnid=__w8W8IiNKs0LM:&imgrefurl=http://www.menhairstyle.org/short-hairstyle-types-for-males.html&docid=k4OPrkvxH7BJbM&imgurl=http://www.menhairstyle.org/wp-content/gallery/short-hair-types/Funky%252520men%252520hairstyle%252520from%252520Daniel%252520Radcliffe.jpg&w=362&h=362&ei=MZMuT8WeBKnJiQLJ-aSuCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1078&vpy=331&dur=1005&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=117&ty=93&sig=100439230851368422389&page=2&tbnh=131&tbnw=131&start=35&ndsp=43&ved=1t:429,r:32,s:35

6) http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=Mens+medium+bangs&um=1&hl=en&biw=1440&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbnid=Xl20cMCBirOhHM:&imgrefurl=http://www.hairstyleagain.com/hair-style-beauty/mens-trendy-hairstyle-fringe/&docid=0WnUAN30vfdkaM&imgurl=http://www.hairstyleagain.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Mens-trendy-hairstyle-fringe.jpg&w=600&h=430&ei=4JQuT9C-F6fYiQLb5smbCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=377&vpy=484&dur=4146&hovh=190&hovw=265&tx=187&ty=127&sig=100439230851368422389&page=2&tbnh=136&tbnw=185&start=23&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:17,s:23


I like the 3rd and 6th pics, and wouldn't mind cutting the sides and back a bit shorter. Thoughts? Just state which numbers would work. Maybe the second?

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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2012, 09:48:37 »
All of those haircuts are going to be unacceptable for your BMQ.

Try googling pictures of CF members, all the pictures you have are either Americans or models: none of which will have the same hair cut standard as us.

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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2012, 09:51:47 »
I thought that the second one was pretty reasonable...

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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2012, 09:53:29 »
I thought that the second one was pretty reasonable...

What you thought and reality are far apart.  Trust us they are all unacceptable for a a person starting out.  Once in a unit you have a bit more leeway but it still can't be touching the ears or looking like a rats nest along the sides.
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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2012, 09:54:02 »
I thought that the second one was pretty reasonable...

You thought wrong.

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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2012, 09:54:44 »
Hair can't touch your collar or ears.  During BMQ they'll ask you if you want a 1 or a 2. Those are your options.  Take what you can get.

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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2012, 10:17:52 »

So out of these, which ones would be okay?

None of them.
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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2012, 10:18:29 »
Show up for BMQ in my unit, and you will be off for a fresh hair cut pretty quick should you be sporting one of those.

All is not lost though. Small sacrifice on the hair can pay dividends in the long run. 18 years now, and I am still having fun! Yes, it is also brutally hard work at times, especially on deployments... But it is very rewarding!
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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2012, 10:22:41 »
You've been going on about this hair thing since January of last year.

Maybe it's time for you to grow some stones and stop using "whaa i've been bullied" as an excuse. I'm sure your self-esteem could use some time off.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2012, 10:35:00 »
if you don't want to conform to CF hair policy....don't bother. (OMFG I wish I could lock this one).
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2012, 10:38:40 »
You've been going on about this hair thing since January of last year.

Maybe it's time for you to grow some stones and stop using "whaa i've been bullied" as an excuse. I'm sure your self-esteem could use some time off.

Yeah I wish it was that easy. Unfortunately, it's happened to me, and it don't feel too good.

Anyways, how about this one. Underneath it says that it's 2 inch on top and 1/2 inch on sides. Would this be okay?

http://menshair.about.com/od/mediumhaircutsstyles/ig/Celebrity-Hairstyles-4/Justin-Bartha.htm

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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2012, 10:43:53 »
It's hair.

A very old, very wise man, whom I respect very much, once told me "The most important thing you can ever do in your life is loose your vanity".

If you're that concerned about having hair that looks like a male model, the military is not for you, consider male modelling.

(Fun side note, somthing about being told to get a hair cut by a man who's got a comb-over a foot long never felt right...)
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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2012, 10:45:37 »
Yeah I wish it was that easy. Unfortunately, it's happened to me, and it don't feel too good.

Anyways, how about this one. Underneath it says that it's 2 inch on top and 1/2 inch on sides. Would this be okay?

http://menshair.about.com/od/mediumhaircutsstyles/ig/Celebrity-Hairstyles-4/Justin-Bartha.htm

The answer is that no one on this board can tell you what your instructors will or won't allow. On my BMQ, we all got shaved (except the 2 females). If you get to BMQ, and try to tell them that some random guy on a message board said you won't get your hair shaved off, and your Pl WO decides you will.. Guess who wins? In the army, you will undergo a lot more stress than what some bullies caused you, so if that is this big of a deal for you, you are not cut out for service.
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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2012, 10:46:52 »
Yeah I wish it was that easy. Unfortunately, it's happened to me, and it don't feel too good.

The Taliban (or whoever) isnt going to give a rat's a$$ about your self-esteem. Better learn to get over it. You're not the only one with acne and/or oddly shaped head. Get over yourself.

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Anyways, how about this one. Underneath it says that it's 2 inch on top and 1/2 inch on sides. Would this be okay?

http://menshair.about.com/od/mediumhaircutsstyles/ig/Celebrity-Hairstyles-4/Justin-Bartha.htm

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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2012, 10:50:50 »
If you actually read the CF Dress Instructions, you would have seen a picture or two showing what the minimum standard is. 

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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2012, 11:11:04 »
Hi guys, I'm thinking about joining the reserves and have a question about hair. My hair right now is down to my shoulders, and I have no problem getting it cut, but I'm just a bit confused about how short it has to be. I have acne (not a bit, but a lot) on my face and all over my head, and I have some scarring too, and longer hair helps to draw attention away from it, whereas shorter hair seems to magnify it. I hate the idea of short hair ruining my self esteem, because I have been bullied for my acne/big ears before, but I still want to join the army. I've seen army haircuts before and the short length just looks scary.

My wife has acne scars on her face. Her hair can't cover them. Get over it.
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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2012, 11:15:28 »
Yeah I wish it was that easy. Unfortunately, it's happened to me, and it don't feel too good.

Anyways, how about this one. Underneath it says that it's 2 inch on top and 1/2 inch on sides. Would this be okay?

http://menshair.about.com/od/mediumhaircutsstyles/ig/Celebrity-Hairstyles-4/Justin-Bartha.htm

Think more along the lines of a cue-ball with that guy's facial hair on top and sides instead.

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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2012, 11:18:46 »
So, if you "have no problem getting it cut" why are we wasting band width on this? Just join already and take what you get!  BTW did you ever consider that if your head got more air your acne might not be as bad?
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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2012, 11:19:00 »
OK ok...now that I have stopped laughing at some of the haircuts you are getting us to look at...

Try this site for an idea of haircuts in the CF.  Even some of those might be alittle outside the book reg's, but you'll get the point.

Also, you could try here for more pictures.

Googling "celebrity guys with bad sic hair" won't produce the results you are looking for.

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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2012, 11:23:20 »
MrCanada:

Knock it off now.
You have wasted enough time and Kb on this issue. You're no more special than anyone else, and nobody really cares at this point. By continuong to post "How about this one" simply shows how much effort you are willing to go through to circumvent the system. If you ever make it to a BMQ this attutude will only serve to single you for mocking and ridicule by your peers and thus crushing whatever is left of your so called self esteem.
In other words...Smarten up FFS.
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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2012, 12:03:32 »
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As someone who had the crap harassed out of her while growing up by other kids, I know where you are coming from regarding the long-lasting impact that can be caused on the psychological front. I was the little red-headed girl with all the freckles and buck teeth. I still have self-esteem issues today because of some of the bullshit that I had to endure as a kid. BUT, I made out OK. Kids are f`n cruel.

No worries on the haircut front, and I realize the apprehension that what others would regard as `such a simple thing`causes for those who have real reasons to fear `putting themselves out there for another round of BS and harassment`from idiots regarding physical looks that we have no control over. That being said, realize that as a CF member, you`d actually have a step up on the f`n idiots whom you fear would make the comments etc again ... they`d be in uniform and we don`t put up with bullshit such as this. If you find that you are subject to such denigration by your peers or supervisors once the hair is cut and they do not cease when you ask them to ... send me a PM and I`ll advise you further.



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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2012, 14:34:08 »
From my own experience with having bad acne is this . You notice it more then others . Dont be ashamed of it , most people in one point in their life had acne problems . Love your self and be confident with who you are.

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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2012, 15:48:34 »
My advice as someone who has taught on a few courses: shave your head. You only get one chance to make a first impression. A shaved head gives the impression that you understand you have to go by someone else s rules now, you have a positive and eager attitude towards being successful in your course, and you are willing to be part of the team.Imagine showing up on day one with an earing, long hair and an attitude, How do you think that is going to go over in the long run?

You will soon find that in a military unit, everyone has there part to play. Some people can run for a week without stopping, some are very intelligent and know just about everything, some are very funny and keep morale high, some are built like brick ##$houses and can do the physical labour of a small forklift, and some blossom later on in their careers, but the fact remains that they are the sum of all these parts.You will be a part of this.

 Now transfer this mentality to the larger part, and you begin to understand how tanks can't run unless they are fixed by mechanics, mechanics won't work if they can't eat, cooks won't work if they don't get paid, tanks don't get anywhere unless there are roads and bridges that are safe to traverse, and nobody can get over land or water without a ship or a plane.

Bottom line, suck it up, we all have our issues that we are subconscious about, but we also all have our strengths, which help the team out and are a necessary part of the whole entity.

Good luck and get a haircut! Skinned! Now!

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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2012, 15:57:21 »
Got to agree with the majority here.  If you are a guy, the expectation is that you will buzz off the hair.  Although I'm still in the application process, I have my hair short all the time.  Consider the practicality.  Get up in the morning... no comb needed.  Just shower and go.

From my understanding of how basic goes, you'll save yourself time and effort not having to worry about hair.

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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2012, 16:01:22 »
Don't worry, come in with what ever hairstyle you like..... you will end up like this anyways.......
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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2012, 16:14:41 »
In all seriousness, long hair or short hair, acne or no acne, is not going to change whether or not you get bullied.

Your confidence in yourself and the way you assert yourself is the only thing that stops it. Perhaps you should consider shaving your head as symbolizing a good-bye to the old you that kept his head down and tried to avoid being noticed by others, and a way of welcoming the fact that you're going to be a confident, sharp, professional soldier.

And FWIW, every time I grew my hair out when I was 15/16/17 it always made skin oilier and my acne worse. Every time I got it cut, my skin/acne got much better.

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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2012, 18:36:53 »
And FWIW, every time I grew my hair out when I was 15/16/17 it always made skin oilier and my acne worse. Every time I got it cut, my skin/acne got much better.

Exactly what I was thinking. In grade eight I had some pretty fearsome neck-acne that I decided to cover up with collars and turtlenecks... ::)
I'm sure you can guess how that went. As soon as I lost that look and started showering after gym class, things straightened out a bit.
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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2012, 21:28:01 »
While this thread is going I have a question of my own, instead of starting another. During the first few weeks of BMQ while you are confined to the base are there any opportunities to shave your head? (with a hair trimmer set on 0, no attachments).  Currently I shave my head once per week as I do not like the semi balding look, however if I have to wait a few weeks to cut it it's no big deal. Could I bring my own shaver as well?

thanks in advance.

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« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2012, 21:34:22 »
When I was in the training system barracks haircuts were frowned upon(and I assume still are), and if caught(ie having a shitty haircut) you would be in ****.

On that note, during BMQ I never cut my own hair, but during SQ myself and some others shaved our own heads without issue, well except for one guy who got a buddy to shave his head but missed some hair and it was picked up during inspection.  Hair clippers were kept in a personal bag in the spare kit closet on our wing of the shacks.

I would recommend just letting the barbers cut your hair during BMQ, after that see how things are on future courses/PAT and judge for yourself if you want to have your own hair clippers and cut your hair.
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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2012, 21:51:39 »
I too have a question about hair - I'm female and have kept my hair short for about 2.5yrs now - I'm talking 1/2" guard short.  Right now - I've let it grow out (about 2.5 inches atm) but I am really not too keen on keeping my hair this length or growing it out further.  I am going into BMQ in 2 weeks and am actually unsure if by getting my hair cut to my usual length I will be cause - problems - older female with a butch cut isn't a good start to blending in BMQ I'm guessing.

I did a search on the length of hair for females and none of the posts I could find pertains to how short it may be.. but I DID find a post from some years ago that some girls with cropped locks caused the BMQ instructors to consider charging them????   Of course there very well could be more to the story but I'm curious.
Hopefully someone can shed some light on those regulations as I could not find the official CF file online that gave the hair length requirements for women.

Edit - a wee bit pedantic - fixed a repeated line
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« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2012, 21:56:25 »
There is no minimum length, you'll be fine.

If you want to go back to 1/2", you'll find your life even easier.
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« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2012, 22:13:57 »
Fantastic!  Crop it is then.  Thank you for the input. :D
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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2012, 22:45:42 »
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As someone who had the crap harassed out of her while growing up by other kids, I know where you are coming from regarding the long-lasting impact that can be caused on the psychological front. I was the little red-headed girl with all the freckles and buck teeth. I still have self-esteem issues today because of some of the bullshit that I had to endure as a kid. BUT, I made out OK. Kids are f`n cruel.

No worries on the haircut front, and I realize the apprehension that what others would regard as `such a simple thing`causes for those who have real reasons to fear `putting themselves out there for another round of BS and harassment`from idiots regarding physical looks that we have no control over. That being said, realize that as a CF member, you`d actually have a step up on the f`n idiots whom you fear would make the comments etc again ... they`d be in uniform and we don`t put up with bullshit such as this. If you find that you are subject to such denigration by your peers or supervisors once the hair is cut and they do not cease when you ask them to ... send me a PM and I`ll advise you further.



From someone who understands the tightness you get in your chest and the apprehension that comes with it just having to think about putting yourself in a position for someone to notice your physical issues again. 25 years after I graduated from high-school, I still get that tightness and apprehension - and seek for ways to avoid certain situations -  dependant upon the situation all thanks to a bunch of ******* bully-kids (and those who just sat back and just watched it happen) from my school years. My friends from that time are extremely few - I can count them on three fingers - and there`s good reason for that. But, don`t let these ****ers hold you down another single minute. At the end of the day, you are better than them.

Thank you for understanding :) I know that it does seem silly to some, but hearing that it'll be no big deal from someone that has actually experienced something similar means a lot. I'm not mad or angry with what the others had to say, and at the end of the day I do realize that they're right. There's no point in whining and complaining about getting a haircut, because unless I decide to put on a Turban and become a practicing Sikh it's going to get cut no matter what.

And to anyone who may of been thinking it, no, I am not going on Google and deliberately searching for "male celebrity haircuts". I was searching "men's short haircuts", and it just so happened that a lot of the pictures were links from celebrity websites, that's all.

As far as this picture is concerned: http://menshair.about.com/od/mediumhaircutsstyles/ig/Celebrity-Hairstyles-4/Justin-Bartha.htm

The only reason I posted it was because the description underneath said that "The hair is cut to about 1/2 inch on the sides and back and 2 inches on top.".
Isn't that what the regulations say it has to be?

I tried finding Military haircuts this time. Would any of these work? Maybe not for BMQ, but afterwards perhaps?

1) http://haircutsformen.org/buzz/haircuts/buzz04.htm

2) http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=Marines+Haircut+bangs&hl=en&biw=1440&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbnid=IGdG-r0Yv51lGM:&imgrefurl=http://philwickham.wordpress.com/2007/09/05/after-your-heart-and-a-haircut-a-really-short-one/&docid=Us_RuO1j_laRQM&imgurl=http://philwickham.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/sidecrop.jpg&w=437&h=442&ei=DEsvT-qaO-TciQLu5rnQCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=177&vpy=431&dur=6242&hovh=226&hovw=223&tx=184&ty=62&sig=100258927257839692882&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=136&start=0&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:16,s:0

3) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_j7CBBTUIT5g/S76tjgr9aZI/AAAAAAAAAtw/hnUxzNfCkHo/s1600/Dear+John+004.jpg

The last one is from a movie, and I know it'll be a no-no in BMQ, but how about afterwards?

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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2012, 22:54:24 »
I'd say this is ideal length for non recruits

http://www.haircareresources.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/crew-cut-hairstyles-3.jpg

also, you can look up Toby Maguire's hair for Brothers (2009).

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« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2012, 23:31:54 »
Thank you for understanding :) I know that it does seem silly to some, but hearing that it'll be no big deal from someone that has actually experienced something similar means a lot. I'm not mad or angry with what the others had to say, and at the end of the day I do realize that they're right. There's no point in whining and complaining about getting a haircut, because unless I decide to put on a Turban and become a practicing Sikh it's going to get cut no matter what.

And to anyone who may of been thinking it, no, I am not going on Google and deliberately searching for "male celebrity haircuts". I was searching "men's short haircuts", and it just so happened that a lot of the pictures were links from celebrity websites, that's all.

As far as this picture is concerned: http://menshair.about.com/od/mediumhaircutsstyles/ig/Celebrity-Hairstyles-4/Justin-Bartha.htm

The only reason I posted it was because the description underneath said that "The hair is cut to about 1/2 inch on the sides and back and 2 inches on top.".
Isn't that what the regulations say it has to be?

I tried finding Military haircuts this time. Would any of these work? Maybe not for BMQ, but afterwards perhaps?

1) http://haircutsformen.org/buzz/haircuts/buzz04.htm

2) http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=Marines+Haircut+bangs&hl=en&biw=1440&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbnid=IGdG-r0Yv51lGM:&imgrefurl=http://philwickham.wordpress.com/2007/09/05/after-your-heart-and-a-haircut-a-really-short-one/&docid=Us_RuO1j_laRQM&imgurl=http://philwickham.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/sidecrop.jpg&w=437&h=442&ei=DEsvT-qaO-TciQLu5rnQCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=177&vpy=431&dur=6242&hovh=226&hovw=223&tx=184&ty=62&sig=100258927257839692882&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=136&start=0&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:16,s:0

3) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_j7CBBTUIT5g/S76tjgr9aZI/AAAAAAAAAtw/hnUxzNfCkHo/s1600/Dear+John+004.jpg

The last one is from a movie, and I know it'll be a no-no in BMQ, but how about afterwards?

Ok, so here is the basic idea of the haircut that you can have, at most times after basic:

Sides:  Thick enough that you can't see the skin beneath.  This will require a haircut every 3/4 weeks though, as it is usually a fine line between that and having it touch your ears.
Top: A good amount, even enough to cover a bit of your forehead if you have acne along the hairline.

In my experience, the CF has a good number of mature people who don't judge.  I've had (and still have) my share of self-esteem points about my body, be it acne, weight, man boobs.  I have never in 4.5 years (and lots of full visual disclosure) had a single comment about any of it.  I still have those problems in my head, but believe me...those little self-esteem niggles will be completely gone during your training, and afterwards, you'll have enough latitude to try and cover it up if it still seems necessary, but you'll likely have different priorities afterwards.  People will be judging you on a lot of factors, but physical appearance is one that I've found to not be high on the scale.

In the mean time, accept that you are as you are, and that we have no control over a lot of our physical aspects.  There's no logic in worrying about things you haven't any control over.  Just as it is illogical for others to pick on you for it.  I know a number of people with acne that is most certainly 10-20x more severe than yours if you're using hair to cover it up.  He as an RMC cadet, and when he becomes an officer, he can be proud of his accomplishments and have a lot of good friends.
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Re: Acceptable Army Hair?
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2012, 00:01:31 »
Repitively asking the same question on here isn't going to get you your answer. Bottom line, if you're told it's too long, you cut it.

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« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2012, 02:27:58 »
Repitively asking the same question on here isn't going to get you your answer. Bottom line, if you're told it's too long, you cut it.

Agreed your question has been asked and answered quite a few times. In the end you have to decide wether you can put your self esteem issue aside and join the the CF or not be able to and move onto another career where hair length is not an issue .
Sorry if this seems harsh but we have dress regs for a reason and I don't think they will make an acception for you on hair length. 
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« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2012, 06:17:35 »
Mr Canada i'm not going to sugarcoat it for you, you will have **** chucked at you for one thing or another pretty much your entire career.  Most of it is just harmless fun, but some its pretty vicious. You have to make a decision to shake it off and not let it bother you. Your BMQ will grow your confidence and self esteem, you'll be surprised. If you can't deal with that then i'm afraid the military is not for you.
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« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2012, 09:51:33 »
Let me put it this way about you being bullied about your acne.

Simply tell the bullies why you shaved your head.
Then tell them you get to march around and carry an Automatic Weapon.
Tell them what you get to do at work and how rewarding it is.

Then ask them about their day and see how many hours of video games they played and what their mom made them for lunch.

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« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2012, 11:51:39 »
For what it's worth, if people on your BM(o)Q hear you making a fuss about your haircut, they're going to make fun of you for it. You're putting yourself in a position where this will turn out badly for you.

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« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2012, 12:09:21 »
When I did my QL 2/3 back in the day, we all got #1's or #2's, and it was discovered that one guy had a scabby scalp underneath.  It didn't bother him and the only one who said anything was a staff member who kept calling him "Uncle Fester".  But he was kind of a **** anyways, commenting on other recruits' appearances.  No body cared what he said.

The long and short of it: get your hair cut as directed by your course staff, and don't complain about it.  Only ****'s will make a deal of your acne.  And you won't waste time ****ing around with your hair in the morning before inspection.  :)
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« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2012, 13:54:27 »
We're still talking about this??!!

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« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2012, 14:25:58 »
We're still talking about this??!!

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