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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2004, 20:15:59 »
Yeah I know, I've been through this with all my family and friends too. My civi friends think I'm completely nuts, but it's only because they don't really understand what goes on in the army, and what is in it for me. It's not something that you have to do for your entire life, but it can certainly give you an idea or direction for your future. That's what I'm looking forward to. You just have to ignore it, but you can use it as motivation to do even better. I've worked for the forces this past two years, and have met some awesome people. Every single one of them is totally supportive of girls joining the army. They eventually convinced me to get in. If you want to chat, you can get me on MSN or ICQ.

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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2004, 00:31:38 »
My brother says I'm crazy and the pay is peanuts, barely beer money

The check I just got cashed for $980 is a bit more than beer money. And that was just TD claim. (i.e. sleeping money) :D
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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2004, 08:37:54 »
LoL just show them the pay scales and they'll see how wrong they are. I think for NCM's its minmum 45k a year after 5 years which is good and if you showed someone the pay scale for an officer they would probably sh!t them selves.

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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2004, 11:00:09 »
The pay scales aren't amazing but they are workable.  I doubt you'd be a MCpl after only 5 years in the regs, but the pay is comparable to other areas of the public service - which isn't surprising since the Treasury Board sets the pay for both the CF and the rest of the public service.

Four years ago, not only was I not in the army, but I wasn't even seriously considering joining.  I was in my third year working for customs, and looking forward to going permanent there, learning more of the job, and moving up in seniority and pay.  By the next year, I had become so fed up with some aspects of my job, and looked to the CF as a way of expanding the depth and breadth of my experiences, learning leadership and achieving positive goals outside of work that I could feel a sense of accomplishment for.

Fast forward to Sept. 2004 and here I am, conducting pre-deployment training for Op ATHENA.  My family and friends have been very supportive over the past three years, and I think they can see that this is what I want to do, this is the contribution I want to make and I'm serious about it all.

Kmcc, your family and friends will come around, too.  They will change their tune when they see that you are dedicated to helping yourself and others, learning new things, and serving your nation and its' citizens.

I find that here in Canada, we suffer from a sort of "crabs in the bucket" mentality -- the other crabs work together to keep the few from climbing out and escaping.  You will encounter the other crabs, working to keep you from getting out of the bucket, the naysayers and gloom-and-doom types.  But once you commit, once you show you are willing to make personal sacrifices, they'll come around, and they'll wish they had the personal drive and committment to follow your lead.
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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2004, 11:40:26 »
When you calm down and read over what you've said you realize just how much you left out. I feel rather childish now because of that ::) I'm just going to continue to grin and bear it like I have been for the last 6 months. I'll just have to prove to them what I already know, that I'm going to be a damn good solider and will succeed in what I've chosen to do with my life

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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2004, 20:46:12 »
I'm looking forward to hearing the hippies call me a baby-killer and a war-mongeror when they find out, its the 90's and I have kids at my school living in the '60's using the slogans and everything. You just have to keep a stiff upper lip and do what you know is right.

last time i checked it was 04' lol, anyway..no one supported me, i was a alone person myself, and look at me, awaiting SQ, to start..All i have to say
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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2004, 12:31:20 »
Ha I voided my football(soccer) scholarship to be in the position that im in right now , imagine what my parents thought , but like the girl said it feels right and thats whats important , besides RMC is always an option .

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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2004, 13:11:32 »
Kmcc   


I am going through what you are at this time, I have gotten ZERO support from my family, friends and anyone else i talk to.  I hope that you will have fun in the CF and I will just let you know, I'm all for you, and also i wanted to say what i'm going for, RHLI for the COOP BMQ and then RCR for fulltime Infantry.

I wish you luck in getting into the CF and I hope you like your job!! :salute: :cdn:
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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2004, 21:32:22 »
In my case it's kind of hard since it's my mom who's telling me she doesn't want me to go, but since she's my mom I know that deep down she's happy that I've made a decision I can stick with and happy that I now have a goal in life

What a load that was...just when I thought my mom was warming up to the thought of me in the army she walks in on me and my dad talking about my profession to be and says "that's right, help him get killed before he hits 20"...and then find out she thinks I don't respect her.

Funny how a situation can change just like that...
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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2004, 23:48:45 »
For the longest time I though that I had no one to talk to about what I wanted to do with my life. I was right....until I TRIED talking to my friends! I now have one friend who supports what I'm doing, though she doesn't like it. But for me, the military is my calling, and I am not going to say no regardless of what people say. My parents especially are hounding me about my choice. My dad is indifferent to my opinion, and while my mom is a bit better, she as well thinks I should go to university and spend the rest of my life in some office.

It's unfortunate that the people we care about cannot understand our drive, our urge to serve. I guess wanting to go PPCLI Infantry or the Combat Engineers isn't helping matters...

Meh, To hell with 'em!

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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2004, 20:58:54 »
The worst type of person that you can ever run into is a "micheal moore" fan. not only have they wasted their entire lives memorizing obscure and highly dubious facts about the Bush administration, but they are extremely vocal about it. people like this, including my ex-girlfriend are spawn of the lower regions of the genetic cesspool. I have found that as I mentioned before my family supports me more then the public. I had always thought it would be the other way around... they are all alot easier to deal with if your answer them with more ridiculous facts then they are throwing at you.. a verbal pissin' contest but it works.
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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2004, 12:29:30 »
QORvanweert,


I will give it a shot, I will try ANYTHING that may help me out!!


Thanks. :salute: :cdn:
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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2004, 22:49:33 »
Kmcc why do you think you would not qualify for a student loan. Everbody and there brother who has applied for one and got it. I do not see a problem unless you are not a citizen. Also, who cares what people think of you joining. If you want to do it then do it, you will have many people supporting you once you are in

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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2004, 23:50:53 »
Wow...reading everyone's stories.
Makes me wonder if I was the only person who grew up in a military family?
Almost all of my reatives have all served in the military in one form or another,and those that have'nt have grown up with it around them.
I have relatives that have served in every major conflict since the Boer War,and when I announced to my mother that I was joining the military she said "It runs in your blood".
The proudest person was my grandfather.He was a carrer soldier and served overseas during WW2.
My advise to you:Be true to ones self.If YOUwant to do it,don't let anyones misguided notions stall your efforts.Afterall,whos going to basic,you or mom?
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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2004, 02:55:51 »
damn, this is a very interesting thread...... i too am seriously thinking about joining the forces, both because i have always wanted a challenge, i get bored with regular jobs, i like to help people and i want to get into Search & Rescue later on. yet when i tell my circle of friends my goals, they lash out and call me everything from "corporate killer", "fascist" (really dislike that one), "baby killer", "loser" etc etc etc etc.....


makes me really pissed off. these people (no offence to my friends), seem content to sip their lattes and dictate how the world should be. BUT, what i find funny is none of these naysayers are able to take care of themselves. basic things like fixing their own vehicle, getting their own food, building or reparing their own house, going out and working a job when they need money etc.   Whatever happened to grabbing the bull by the horns and being self sufficient? instead they b***** about how the guvmint' owes them this and that, they tell the bank that they need a credit line to payoff their credit cards, i could on for hours but the point i'm trying to make is don't let the naysayers guilt you into not doing what YOU want to do with your life. I know i am going to be facing hurdles, but i do not want to be old looking back and always wondering "could i have done it"?> i would rather try and fail than not try at all. nuff said.

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« Reply #40 on: October 19, 2004, 12:10:56 »
I was lucky enough to have parents who sort of support me in my decision.  Although I think they only do cause I'm only joining as a reserve.  What they don't know is that eventually I plan on going reg.   As for everyone else they seem to think that like the states we'll be getting in everyone else's issues and so we will always be at war.  Everyone has a conspiracy theory of some sort and thinks joining the army is pretty much like suicide.  I'm a proud  :cdn: and I will be proud to serve my country... and despite everything... I think we as soldiers would make a bigger diffrence then any other job out there.  So I say stay strong and do what you believe is right.

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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2004, 13:23:45 »
My old man says the army brought out the worst in me and the best in me.  When he says worst, he means the parts of the army that cause new recruits to swear, drink and womanize.  (I'm mostly done with the swearing and womanizing.   :crybaby:)  He also knows that the army has sorted my life right out.  Everything that I am today is directly because of the army.  Just to name a few:   physical fitness, my responsibility, indifference to physical hardship, the ability to get any job done under any circumstances without excuses and my integrity are all valuable life skills that I have taken from the CF.

Don't let yourself be changed by someone else's beliefs.  (Unless that other person is your Platoon Warrant).  You will be a better person for completing your training.

Maybe this will help you out, kmcc.  Here's a story I tell people that don't understand what I do. 

I was going to quit the forces when I was a bitter and jilted corporal.  On a driver course I was on fire piquet with a medic who was born in India.  He was a dentist by trade back home.  He told me some stories.  He had to pay off the cops every morning just to drive to work.  (He was Chinese - they're not treated that well in India).  He never knew of the word "tangerine" before he came to Canada.  His first time in a grocery store he wanted to buy all of the sugar on the shelf, back home they usually have to stock up due to constant shortages.  He had a lot more, but I won't write them all down.  He loved Canada so much, he wanted to give something back, so he signed up. 

I tell people that Canadians as a whole are pretty lucky.  Our society takes care of us pretty well.  We take a lot of our civil liberties for granted.   I feel that protecting the weaker man that can't defend himself is a fitting way to repay some of the benefits that Canadian society bestows on us. 

Then ask the person why they aren't greatful to be Canadian.
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« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2004, 13:38:03 »
ok i no how u feel ppl always make fun of me whenever I go 2 cadets i no its not the same but go ahead join the amry prove them wrong!! trust me just believe in ur self and you will go far
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Re: hope it doesnt explode!!
« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2004, 21:44:34 »
ok i no how u feel ppl always make fun of me whenever I go 2 cadets i no its not the same but go ahead join the amry prove them wrong!! trust me just believe in ur self and you will go far
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People make fun of Soldiers because they think they are baby-killers, etc etc.. When I was in Cadets, (Queens York Rangers) we were made fun of because they thought we were just pretending to be soldiers... real pain in the ***....
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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2004, 08:48:16 »
hey guys I'm in the same boat as all you.... but the thing is my parents/entire family has completely disowned me. which i think is worse for me then if the just made negative comments.


like a few things my dad says to me is "how much money r u making" i hate those comments

even my friends don't support me.

BUT all this negativity is just making me wanna do this just to prove everyone wrong

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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2004, 12:21:37 »
The only person you can stay true to is yourself.. the rest can fall in line and support you, or be damned cause you don't need them. Good luck on joining the CF.
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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #46 on: October 30, 2004, 13:04:14 »
My hat is off to all of you who have shown the courage to make a difficult decision and then stay with what you believed to be right, despite the mockery or discouragement from family or "friends". It is the first test of character: the military will provide you with many more, some of which you cannot even imagine right now.

If it were not for folks like you, we would not have an Army at all. Take a bow!

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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #47 on: October 30, 2004, 21:58:03 »
If you want to fight for your country then that's definately the right thing to do :salute:  Plus if you join the reserves your odds of going into a war would be small... but not impossible.
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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2004, 23:05:52 »
Hell your chances of going to war in the Reg Force aren't very high anyhow unless you join a few select units
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Re: I think my head is going to explode
« Reply #49 on: November 01, 2004, 05:05:42 »
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If you want to fight for your country then that's definately the right thing to do   Plus if you join the reserves your odds of going into a war would be small... but not impossible.

Actually, if we look at which units are carrying the lion's share of battle honours in this country, we'll see that they are Reserve units. Even at Medak, that famous event involving 2PPCLI, a very high percentage of the soldiers on the ground were Reservists. There is a formed platoon of Reserve soldiers here on Op Athena, and other Reservists employed as individuals. Given the much increased involvement of the Army Reserve in what we do today, I wouldn't make that assumption with too much certainty.

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