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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2005, 16:23:56 »
Ya moneys the best reason to join the forces.

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This comment coming from an INDIVIDUAL who CONDEMS any Reservist who can't take summer training, calling them inferior to himself as he took summer training.

I see another great post has been written.

If you wanna troll/flame others or don't have the brain capacity to write a decent post, go to another website, as my patience with you has long expired.

At post No.13, and getting a RW at post No.4, you are setting a record, and have been repeatedly worn, and given a chance, but its obvious that you don't have any respect for others (yet alone yourself) on this website. If I was you, I would move on and go irratate people somewhere else. I think your minutes on this site are seriously numbered. Harassing others on here will not be tolerated.
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2005, 16:52:30 »
Well if a person is going into the forces just for the money then they I sure as hell don't want them backing me up. As well with me the forces attracted me to the pride, tradition, and the basic job that the CF does. While money does come into play somewhat, its fairly minor in the decision making.

Golmer your post about reservists taking the weekend program instead of the summer one as being less of soldiers is fairly childish. I'm applying to the regular force infantry, and I certainly will have more respect for other members of the CF then you have.
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2005, 16:57:45 »
We're giving this 'manchild' (and I use that term loosely) an audience, otherwords fuelling his fire. Rest assured, the Mods know Gomer already, and are on to his games he's playing.

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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2005, 17:27:53 »
One word, opportunities.


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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2005, 21:31:05 »
Gomerpyle has somehow managed to put himself on the radar of more than a few staff members - he quickly earned himself alot of attention, and this last post will be exactly that, his last.

Bye, bye troll - have fun being an idiot on militaryphotos.net or something.

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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2005, 22:09:53 »
I plan on joining the reserves because I want to explore all of my options for careers before committing full time. I don't mean it as an insult, just that I'm still trying to decide my future and I figure joining the reserves will give me a solid background for any future aspirations.

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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2005, 22:17:35 »
To start with, recruiting is not aimed at the vast mass of sheep we call Canadian voters, but of that small percentage that have within them the seeds of a professional soldier.   The limp image the gov't likes to portray of a "kinder gentler army, like the peace corp or salvation army, only less well dressed" won't get us the recruits we need. I get so tired of the surprise I get when I tell people that I was a soldier ("the Canadian army?") Offering us as a secure job for those that find looking for a job too challenging is also typical of the kind of useless crap you get from letting civilian hirelings who do not respect the forces they are supposedly serving do your advertising.   I joined for the challenge, for the adventure.   There are still a lot of would-be warriors out there, it is to them we should be pitching.   More than just our peacekeeping record, the performance of Canadian troops in Afghanistan has won them accolades from the American President, and the troops they served along side.   Ads showcasing our troops in action will appeal to those who have dreamed of facing the challenge of combat, the kind of young turks the combat arms has been running on since the dawn of time. With the Army transformation, ISTAR etc, the CF is becoming more technologically relevant, and presenting more of an attractive challenge for a new generation of technically sophisticated youth, yet in the minds of the Canadian public, such technologies are only possessed by our American brethren.   Show off the toys; if you want to recruit the kinds of people who can take our tech to the limit of its potential, show it off to the kinds of people who would give their left nut (or ovary) to get their hands on it.   Stop presenting the CF as some sort of multicultural encounter group, and showcase the strength of its fighting arms, air, sea and land, and you will see an influx of would-be soldiers.
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2005, 01:40:01 »
My dream is to be a police officer, and I still maintain that... I also have the dream of serving the armed forces for however long I feel I need to.

I agree totally about showing off their weaponry and gear. I got to see the c7 and c9 in action when the reserves came out to a Canadian Ranger outing. I was amazed.

I'm currently in the recruitment process and hope to be off to bmq this fall at the latest.
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2005, 20:22:00 »
Thanks for the replies.  There are some well-considered reasons and some not too different from my own purpose in joining in the mid 50s.  Britney Spears asked how things have changed etc.  I realize that I am using generalities here but they are based on personal and shared experiences and attitudes among my military peers at the time.  As today, there were many personal reasons for joining ranging from the it's a good job attitude to patriotic instincts but I believe I am correct in stating that for the majority it was for a sense of adventure, travel, and an opportunity to prove oneself.  Also, many of us thought that a new war was inevitable and would occur sooner rather than later though in contrast to many civilians few of us thought it would be nuclear.  WW II and Korea were recent events and most of our NCOs and officers from Capt up were vets of those conflicts.  Our training was directed toward this type of warfare where one fought an identifiable enemy and had reasonable fronts, rears and flanks unlike today when the enemy can be anyone and anywhere and is in many cases unidentifiable and/or indistinguishable from the civilian population.  It was not difficult to join up.  In my case day one consisted of application, testing and medicals, day two I was sworn in and began employment on joe jobs while waiting for transport to basic (about a week).  Basic was run by Corps or Unit (Navy and Airforce had their own basic training bases).  On arrival pers were employed in drawing kit, cleaning etc for about a week while waiting for a course to start.  Courses started about every two weeks on average.  In general most people were aware that Canada did in fact have a military, had a general idea of its purpose and at that time even the civilian population realized that it was not â Å“peacekeepingâ ?.  Another factor was that many kids joined the Army Cadets, Sea Cadets or Air Cadets and even some schools had their own Cadet Corps.  In many instances this engendered an interest in joining the military, regular or reserve.  Many had relatives who served during WW II and Korea and desired to emulate them  In general things are much more complex in today's world, both military and civil but I am pleased to note that the core values of potential soldiers, sailors and airmen haven't really changed that much.  I wish all serving members and those who plan to join all the best in their careers.
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2005, 20:28:11 »
I joined for free boots and combats
(I really did.. I was Punk with a mohawk on queen st.)

Now, 13 years later.. I'm a chaplain? 


And you tell me God doesn't have a sense of humour!

Its all about appealing to the individuals needs.  Apparently, mine
were very naive and warped.
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2005, 19:03:20 »
One word, opportunities.


I could not agree more with RossF. I am joining because I want the opportunity for rapid career progression and the opportunity to learn skills you can't anywere else. But most of all (this may sound corny) to serve my country with pride and protect it. But that one is not very popular with teens today. People today are just lacking pride, which is the most important factor when joining up.
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2005, 20:33:32 »
andpro,

Not corny at all... someone's gotta do it, and it takes a lot of balls and nerve to join the armed forces. Nothing wrong with having a bit of pride either... I mean, it is our country after all.

I know so many people that think they're big and tough, but if you put em through even 2 weeks of basic, I'd wager that they'd be crying to go home.

and finally, yes, there is a major lack of pride these days.
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2005, 22:37:16 »
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1. I've had a military interest for probably 5 years now, and have always regarded the CF with a high level of respect.

2. I like the uniforms-- the CADPAT looks awesome, and I would be honoured to sit in a room full of people wearing it.

3. I'm a student, so the possibilities with that are, honestly, a solid prospect and reason for joining-- although not my reason entirely.

4. I'm currently looking for a job, and having a terrible success rate at best.  Being a member of the CF would certainly be better than any civilian job I'm going to find in Abbotsford.

5. I want to be trained, I want discipline and responsibility, I want a purpose.

Yeah, these are pretty much my reasons, as well. Especially #5.

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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2005, 22:44:31 »
If you really want the kids to join, you have to bring back the sense of pride. Tonight, my grandfather and I were discussing this. I would argue to say that the majority of kids in school today have no sense of pride for their country, nor do they care about past conflicts that we have taken part in. My grandfather was saddened to hear the few kids that were picked to do a few readings. They spewed it out as fast as they could and got off the stage as if it were a chore. I remember just a couple years ago when I was in school, no one cared for Rememberance Day, or about wearing a poppy, or any of that. They think that the types of things that just happened over the last few hundred years are in the past and can' t happen again, that it's just textbook material and nothing more. They're sadly mistaken.
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2005, 22:59:11 »
I find that a major reason most youth's don't want to get involved with the CF is because this generation is probably one of the worst and most spoiled generations. This is truly the MTV Generation, even at my school in Alberta kid's are complete idiots and don't really give a crap about anything our country has done. For those who have pride in our forces and want to serve this country then come on aboard, I would be more then happy to serve alongside those types of people. But I don't want to serve alongside a person who think's their "gangsta" and gets enjoyment from watching bumfights, and collect "bling bling".
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2005, 23:03:03 »
Exactly... there aren't many, but a few that still take pride in the things that people do for this country. I'm only 20, so I guess I can be part of the "MTV Generation", but my views are totally different. I look forward to serving in the forces soon.
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2005, 01:26:45 »

I'm currently in the recruitment process and hope to be off to bmq this fall at the latest.

And you know whats funny.....

There are unit recruiters here... as well probably a good portion of all units in the CF.

And then you go off on a reckless and bigoted rant with no facts, disgracing yourself,
this site, Christianity (which is my personal beef), and insulting others.

I sure hope for your sake that Mike doesn't release your name or IP because if ANY recruiter
saw your post they would deny you an application. Your attitude and open views on sites like
these show true character and represent poorly of yourself.  Not to mention that NO police force
either would hire you after such a post.  And all it takes is one. 

2 Kids just got thrown out of a private school for a few anti semetic posts on a site in Toronto
and they were just kidding. One of the kids was even Jewish. 

Sites like these aren't just fun and games.  Good luck applying.   Avoid Toronto.
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2005, 02:16:24 »
Trinity,

I'm not anti homosexual, I was only saying that I don't like it when they involve ministers and priests of Christianity to perform marriage ceremonies for them. Did I say I hated them? No, I didn't.

Did I say that I hated people because of ethnic origin? No. Did I say I hate people based on their gender identity? No, I didn't. There was no anti-gay anything. If some of you took my posts the wrong way, then again, I apologize, but read back over them. I did not say I hate anyone, did I? No.
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #43 on: June 15, 2005, 13:19:38 »
And you know whats funny.....

There are unit recruiters here... as well probably a good portion of all units in the CF.

And then you go off on a reckless and bigoted rant with no facts, disgracing yourself,
this site, Christianity (which is my personal beef), and insulting others.

I sure hope for your sake that Mike doesn't release your name or IP because if ANY recruiter
saw your post they would deny you an application. Your attitude and open views on sites like
these show true character and represent poorly of yourself.   Not to mention that NO police force
either would hire you after such a post.   And all it takes is one.  

2 Kids just got thrown out of a private school for a few anti semetic posts on a site in Toronto
and they were just kidding. One of the kids was even Jewish.  

Sites like these aren't just fun and games.   Good luck applying.    Avoid Toronto.


If you have a problem with what he said you should give him a personal message instead of posting things like this in a totaly unrelated form. That topic was locked for a reason and not for you to drag the debate onto another topic.
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #44 on: June 15, 2005, 13:30:03 »
Everything(I Hope) is cleared up, so let's just end all of this. My error, my fault. Let's move on.
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
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Why would you join the CF?
in all honesty, I'm not sure I would anymore.
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« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2005, 20:47:27 »
I'd like to add my story here about why I am joining the CF. Some of my reasons are of a moral/ethical nature and some are just plain practical. I don't think any singular reason is better than another, and I also believe that if a person chooses to join for any reason - good on them. It's a far better bad choice to join the CF for "three hots and a cot" than most people's good choices.

1. I had served before in the reserves and my father did 26 years. I saw the life, lived the life and it was good to our family in ways that no corporation could ever be.
2. I have worked in the corporate world and am sick to death of never knowing what is expected of me. In the CF, I will know exactly what my role is and know that any initiative that I take, within the structure provided, will be rewarded at the very least with a heart-felt attaboy.
3. I want a career where I know that if I do my best, I will succeed - unlike the corporate world where the best get beaten down or laid-off, if they are not the best at politicking.
4. I may not like the governing party, or winter, but Canada is still the best country in the world and I'd be proud to support her in this manner.
5. I want to show my son that his dad is a dedicated man, with intelligence and passion. The CF will give me the opportunity to do that.
6. The money/compensation/benefits are very good.
7. In some ways,  it's me saying thank you for the life the CF gave me through my father's involvement.
8. Where else am I going to get paid to do this great fun stuff?
9. I actually like MRE's - especially the corn beef hash.
10. It is my opinion that all Canadians should serve a minimum of 2 years in the Reg's - I'm backing that up with action.

There are probably more reasons that I haven't conciously realized,  but I do admit that current advertising initiatives had no effect on my choice. The influence of family and friends lead to me making this decision. Possibly the best I've ever made.


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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2005, 21:15:22 »
Guess I have a lot to look forward to then.  :)
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #48 on: June 17, 2005, 11:17:01 »
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Why would you join the CF?
This not something I want to do, this is something I have to do.

Does that make sense? Most people I talk to don't understand that, but I suspect that many people here know what I mean.
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Re: Why would you join the CF?
« Reply #49 on: June 17, 2005, 11:38:41 »
This not something I want to do, this is something I have to do.

Does that make sense? Most people I talk to don't understand that, but I suspect that many people here know what I mean.

Makes sens eto me.....i was the same way.  I never eraly considered doing anything else.  My dad was miliray and growing up , thats all i pictured myself doing.  He likes to tell me that it was a calling and i had no choice but to answer.
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