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Military Singles
« on: July 31, 2005, 22:53:03 »

     Need advice...

     I'm an older single in the Army.  I come home every night to an empty house for four reasons, I figure:

     1.     My age (in the early fourties, usually feel like 29, sometimes feel like 80+);

     2.     Where I'm posted (semi-quasi-isolated posting);

     3.     Taking the civilian population into account, because I'm military; and

     4.     Being male.

     Re #4:  It's too bad that if a woman is interested in a guy, she might give him 'signals' that he is expected to see and interpret correctly, else tough titties.  The only thing that keeps me going is the work that I VERY MUCH still love, so to keep sane and stop from doing anything stupid I am a bona fide workaholic, all weekends included.

     But some days... I make sure my will is up to date.

     Any one else out there even remotely in the same boat?  Don't care to go to the bar with my buddies (all married) and get drunk, it's boring drinking alone, I pretty much take vacations alone, as being the single guy one can feel like the odd man out.

     Looking for ANY reasonable suggestions how to cope.  Don't bother mentioning seeing a shrink, talking about it doesn't change a thing.

     Cheers.   :warstory:




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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2005, 23:03:35 »
Im single, but im only 18 and i havent got a place to call home...Yet. Did this help?

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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2005, 23:07:38 »
Well, the best advice I received was from a female friend of mine.   I too am a workaholic and my entire life was "army" for many years.   That's now been sorted out.

Her advice was to get a hobby that required meeting people - of both sexes.   Even in Wainwright, there are things to do away from the base.   Forget "picking up" a woman.   Simply broadening your social circle will increase the chances of meeting someone.   The "hobby" could be softball, a class (I know, it's Wainwright), volunteering, etc..   Even if it doesn't result in a romantic connection, it gets you off Camp and into a different setting; the odds go up considerably as a result.   You needn't hide being military, but make sure that you're not talking about it all the time.   Concentrate on meeting new friends and you're away.   My two cents...

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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2005, 23:36:35 »
This will sound hokey but it's absolutley true, and borne out time and again. It should help when you move into other circles. Women look at certain things to gauge whether to approach you or accept an advance, subconciously in most cases, but they do. There are three that make you very approachable. Good looking shoes, a good looking belt and a good looking watch. Not Nikes, CF belt and ironman velcro watchband, but good quality leather stuff all around and a good chronometer, not a digital. I've watched this advice used by some real sad sacks and was amazed at the results. Might not be what your looking for as far as answers, but it can't hurt to give it a try.
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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2005, 23:57:06 »
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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2005, 07:56:47 »
Sometimes you met that special someone in unusual places.  I met my bf on the internet (haha please dont judge!) and I wasn't going around looking for someone on the internet....it just happened. My advice is to not be super forward, that would scare some of us females off.
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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2005, 08:46:51 »
Lava Life.  I know more than a few people that have used it with success.

If that still doesn't interest you, get involved in local activities, like was previously mentioned.  Not only will it get you out of the house, but you will increase your pool of friends to probably include some who aren't in the military.  We all need some civvy friends to keep us in the "real world."

You aren't alone.  I had the same problem in Halifax, of all places.  Work was my life, until I decided to sign up with "Joints in Motion."  I was the only military person on the team and made loads of friends that I am still in contact with.  Get out, get involved, have fun.  Either that, or get a cat.  Its psychotic antics will make you see how sane you really are.   ;D
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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2005, 13:13:08 »
Look for social type clubs such as Lions, Rotary, Toastmasters, charity/volunteer, bowling, tennis, darts - places where people get to know you and will promote you to their single friends.  If you are doing good things people will be drawn to you of both sexes and they will be great referral agents for their friends and you.
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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2005, 11:22:48 »
As dorky as this may sound, i swear by lava life, i have met my last three serious bf's on there. Internet dating isnt the geek thing it once was. You have to weed through the weirdos but there are some genuine people on there who just want to meet that special someone. I am young and fairly attractive but i hate the bar scene so i chose to do the online thing. It gives me a chance to get to know someone who is drunk and slobbering and trying to hump my leg. Match.com isnt bad either but it's pricey. Good luck to you, I know that you will find that special someone, sometimes it just takes time.  >:D
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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2005, 12:16:31 »
     I agree with Teddy's friend.   Try a class, perhaps a cooking or dance class.   With regards to the rest of your post....

       Need advice...

        I'm an older single in the Army.   I come home every night to an empty house for four reasons, I figure:

        1.        My age (in the early fourties, usually feel like 29, sometimes feel like 80+);

        2.        Where I'm posted (semi-quasi-isolated posting);

        3.        Taking the civilian population into account, because I'm military; and

        4.        Being male.

Points 1, 3, and 4 are only problems if you let them be...   Your age???   Don't you ever see or hear of those guys that have wives or girlfriends that significantly younger than they are?   It's only an issue if you think it's one.   So the civvy population doesn't like military.   How is that your problem?   If you find a woman that doesn't like military, you don't want her anyways, right?   Being male?   How is it that a problem?   Oh, I get, years of being badly programmed into thinking that the guy to supposed to 'court' a woman and that he must make all the advances.   That's a girly-man mindset, these girls are there for you to chose, not them chose you.   If you go out with one, and they don't meet the critirea, that's not your fault, it's on to the next one.   Get out of this mindset that you must a find girl that will learn to accept you and will see the light and fall magically in love with you, because she won't the way you're talking.   Remember the girls are there for you and for you to chose the best for yourself.   Look at nature, the alpha male never compete for a female, the top females always come to him.  

Sorry, if this sounded harsh, I didn't mean it to be, well a little bit yes, but you needed it....     ;)
« Last Edit: August 03, 2005, 12:25:08 by Kal »
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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2005, 17:58:47 »
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i swear by lava life, i have met my last three serious bf's on there. Internet dating isnt the geek thing it once was

I know! When I tell people I met my bf on date.ca, a large majority respond with "really? Thats so cool!"
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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2005, 18:44:21 »
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Look at nature, the alpha male never compete for a female, the top females always come to him. 

Hate to burst your bubble there Kal, but if that were true, why do male birds have brighter plummage?  Why to deer, elk, moose, and other antler bearing animals always seem to find the males competing for the female?  Humans seem to be the only creatures where the female has to dress up to get the guy.

Beyond the point of this thread though.  The point is, get out, get involved, meet people.  Just by meeting someone increases your chances of meeting someone else you may like and who will feel the same in return.  Networking can work wonders, but you have to get out to make it work.
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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2005, 19:35:37 »
............as Kal drags his club and mate, back to the cave, by the handle and hair respectivley. ;D
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2005, 01:09:22 »
Looking for ANY reasonable suggestions how to cope.  


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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2005, 02:09:20 »
It does not hurt to play the odds. If you join a club or activity where there are 20 guys and 5 girls, it is that much harder for you to interact with the woman in the course. Go to something that is more woman dominated. I have found that many fitness courses, like a running club, tend to have a lot more girls than guys in them.
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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2005, 04:16:33 »
but if you the only nice guy out of those 20 guys, you just have to get in there and prove yourself.
chances are, 20 guys hanging around to meet women, 18 of them are arses
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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2005, 11:50:33 »
Strike - Sorry, but I should clarify.   I meant pack animals.   These types on animals do compete with other males, but not necessarily for females.   The animals will compete to see which one will be the alpha male and lead the pack.   Being the alpha male, means first choice at everything the pack does, eats, etc.   Once the alpha male is known, they don't compete for females.

Recceguy - Ouch...   8)   (just kidding)

Not to blow my own horn, but...   All guys seem to know someone that is a devil with the ladies, that is never down for a date and is always having the girls come to him.   I'm one of the guys   ;) I'm just saying what works for me.
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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2005, 13:42:12 »
One more piece of advice over what all you have heard, when you are meeting the women, please be yourself.  (This from a woman's point of view)  We enjoy ourselves when you are being honest with us.

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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2005, 13:49:04 »
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Strike - Sorry, but I should clarify.  I meant pack animals.  These types on animals do compete with other males, but not necessarily for females.  The animals will compete to see which one will be the alpha male and lead the pack.  Being the alpha male, means first choice at everything the pack does, eats, etc.  Once the alpha male is known, they don't compete for females.

I think the term you are looking for is "social animal". A pack animal is an animal you use to carry rucksacks and other heavy loads over long distances. In this day and age, it is no longer fashionable or appropriate to use women for this role.
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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2005, 14:07:44 »
One word od advice for finding a a female companion...don't listen to Kal.  I am pretty sure that based on what he has already stated that he can only get the bimbos or the females that lack intelligence and self esteem.  It also sounds like he is only into the short term relationships, which from your post it really looks like you are looking for something that may be a little more solid than that.

Like everyone said get out there and join some groups.  If you like to owrk out there are lots of options, if you like to read than try a book club (always packed with women), if you like to cook than you are set there (cooking can be great for foreplay as well  >:D). 

Sometimes just approaching a woman out of the blue can get you amazing results as well.  I mean look at the recent show Beauty and Geeks, they got women's digits and if they can do, anyone can do it.

I do have to agree with one thing that Kal said though.  If the woman is not acceptable of your military career than you have to try to find someone that is.  Truth is this is your life and that has to be respected by who ever you meet.
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« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2005, 14:45:24 »
Britney, I'm not sure if you're making a joke?  What I meant by pack animal is a animal that lives within a group of the same animal, ie wolves.  I think that's what you meant by social animal, correct?

Shadow Cat, I'm not sure why you have responded with such hostile words.  I made no mention of treating women badly or with disrespect.  Why you suggest I can only get bimbos, the unintelligent, etc is beyond me, but is not factual. I need not make examples of the relationships I've had in the past, because they have been fulfilling emotionally, mentally and intellectually.  I made no mention of what exactly to do to meet women, I merely suggested a change in mindset, which in my experience is the most beneficial, and if that constitutes to me only able to get 'unfavourable' women in your books, then so be it.  I have found many more females than not have responded positively to me and my character, than not.  I do find it interesting though how some people take such offence to such things, I am not sure why, maybe failed relationships or relationship goals or they are just intimidated...

That's enough outta' me for this thread...
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« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2005, 15:07:30 »
Sigh...Here we go again... ::)
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2005, 13:50:47 »
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but if you the only nice guy out of those 20 guys, you just have to get in there and prove yourself.
chances are, 20 guys hanging around to meet women, 18 of them are arses
But out of the 5 woman, how many are single? How many are of interest to you? Another reason to play the odds.
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2005, 16:45:38 »
But out of the 5 woman, how many are single? How many are of interest to you? Another reason to play the odds.

I was thinking the same thing...

I find a lot of guys are out for the Skinny, blonde, perfect faced type women. Forget that, what you need is a woman with meat on her bones and so much hair on her chin that you can swing from it!

THATS a recipe for a satisfied man, IMO  ;D
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Re: Military Singles
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2005, 16:39:41 »
A buddy of mine wrote this, and this makes one think.  And if one is living on a small base with only a small town nearby, well then, life becomes and remains a day-to day grind of only looking as far ahead as the next day's work.
  Being financially well-off isn't enough.  Being honest, honourable, and hard-working isn't enough.  Being both smart AND intelligent isn't enough.  Being into the outdoors big-time isn't enough.
  I can think of people that are one or more of the above, and can't find a woman that'll look past the superficiallity at the whole package.   
  As hard as it is to believe, ladies, guys don't just want to (or specifically) boink.  Some want nothing more than to hold your hand, to spend time with you, to watch TV with you, to keep a house for you, to do any number or type of outdoor activities with.
  But that's not enough.  Or too much to ask for.
   I'm on the... umpteenth singles site (at least fifteen).  So far, eharmony seems to be the best, not as popular as Lavalife but more honest and detailed.  And batting zero for twenty-two. Communication goes for a long time, but when it gets to career, or location, the anchor drops.
  Screw it.   :-\


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Why am I single? With about 1,000,000 people in Edmonton and basically a 50/50 male/female ratio, that leaves about 500,000 women. Now you take away all the ones that are much too old & much too young leaving the ones aged about 20-35... that gives us about a 5th of the female population available.

   Now we're at 100,000. With obesity on the rise, you can easily take away half that are simply too gross.  At 50,000 women, let's remove all the ones carrying baggage:  mental problems, ******* children, divorce, separation, and on and on and on.  Let's even try to be generous and say that only a quarter aren't screwed.  Now we're down to 12,500.  Now we remove all the ones that are simply unappealing to us.    They're just not the personality or looks or intelligence or habits or any of that stuff.  So we'll remove another 2/3 which assumes that of 1/3 of all these women, a guy will find to be good for him.  That's a big over-estimate.

   So now we're at about 4,200.  Remove all the ones that don't find me attractive or "right for them".   Down to 1,050.  Now out of 1,050, we can easily assume that at least 90% of these attractive, appealing, smart, un-brainfu--ed women have already been taken by someone cuz they won't stay single long.

   100 women now and we take away all the sluts, the lazy-*** couch potatoes, the spoiled brats, the lesbians, the ones with weirdo proclivities and ones that fit categories I can't think of right now.  Let's be generous and only chop that in half.  Now that leaves just under 50 women out there that are more or less fitting my criteria.

   I don't work in an environment where I'll meet a bunch of women, I don't go out drinking or bar hopping & I'm not a student.  I also don't travel to all parts of the city or all places in those parts so even at 10% the odds are against me.  That means that 10% of remaining women that would work more or less perfect with me, that I will see, meet, be seen by in Edmonton are just waiting for me.  But that leaves 5 women & I'm not the only guy looking either.  So out of 5 women which really is a big over-estimate, there is one for me if I can be in the perfect place at the perfect time, when I'm looking for a girl & she's looking for a guy & we both have time and on and on and on.

   And people wonder why I've given up on the whole concept.  At 1/100,000, I'd say it's a losing bet that I'll find "the right one". These numbers could be moved all over the place but it gives you a pretty good idea.


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