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Re: If Katrina hit Canada
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2005, 16:42:02 »
And the fact remains.   We are canadians and we don't live below sea level so we would not not ever see this type of damage.

Exactly.

Starting in January, I begin my degree in "Applied Disaster and Emergency Studies" at BU, so hopefully in the future, I'll show 'em how it's done.

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Re: If Katrina hit Canada
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2005, 15:24:14 »
Interesting article I found,

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Canada's military unprepared to handle major disaster, new report says
 


CALGARY (CP) - A new report says that four years after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Canada still doesn't have a national plan to co-ordinate its soldiers and reservists in the event of war or natural disaster.

Military historian Jack Granatstein, who co-authored the report for the Canadian Defence and Foreign Affairs Institute in Calgary, says there's no communication between the army, navy or air force reserves when it comes to crisis planning .

Granatstein says he's hopeful that the Forces will be made to co-operate following the creation of Canada Command in June, but he's seen no sign of it yet.

Granatstein says Canadians have to start asking tough questions, especially in light of the recent hurricane disasters in the U.S.

They need to know whether the Canadian Forces could get equipment and people and help in a disaster any faster than the Americans could in New Orleans.

Granatstein stresses that the military is aware of the shortfalls, but the federal government has not put enough money into the system to make any significant impact.



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Re: If Katrina hit Canada
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2005, 14:55:36 »
As bad at Katrina was, it was BAD, I think looking at the bigger picture...beyond the flooding and destruction, look at how long citizens and others waited for help. I think with early action of letting people know how bad it was(I hear some meteorologists made it clear and no one believed them) the overall loss of property(I mean priceless belongings within the home) and life could have been avoided. And the aftermath was a total chaotic mess, no help or skills employed at all. People just lost their minds and it continues still today.  :o

I mean come on, "Brownie" told the media he didn't know about what had happened until 3 days later...really was he hiding in a bunker somewhere with absolutely no contact with the outside world?? Really?!?!?! Thus why, he is now out of a job. ::)

So hindsight is 20/20, I think we all learned a valuable, yet expensive and very sad, lesson.  :'(

My thoughts and prayers are still with all the people involved in the tragedy.  :-\
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Re: If Katrina hit Canada
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2005, 15:40:24 »
I shudder to think about what will happen when the "Big One" hits the Lower Mainland and Vancouver Island of British Columbia.  I think it will make Katrina look like a garden party at Buckingham Palace.

Unlike a hurricane, there is no warning of a large earthquake.  Everybody, rich and poor, white, Asian, Native, etc., is stuck there.

By all accounts most bridges and older buildings, including schools, are not earthquake proof, including Lions Gate Bridge.  Richmond, where the airport is located, will liquify. 

Add to that the areas organised crime gangs and Downtown Eastside junkies, there is a potential law enforcement problem ready to explode at the slightest sign that the civil authority has lost control.  One thing in our favour is that unlike NOPD, the municipal police agencies in the area don't have a history of corruption.

The closest regular army units are located in Edmonton.  From what I've heard, it would take them 3 days to arrive in the disaster area.

We won't be able to rely on our American cousins for assistance because they will be dealing with the aftermath in western Washington, and possibly Oregon.

That leaves the local rerserve units on Vancouver Island, the Lower Mainland, and possibly the Southern Interior.  They, with local emergency and law enforcement agencies, are well placed for dealing with the immediate aftermath.  However in my short time in the reserves, not once were we trained in aid to civil power procedures, nor were we ever briefed on what is to happen in such an event.  In a large earthquake, many of the communication systems will be down, so it will be extremely difficult to issue a call-out unless unit members are briefed before hand.  IMHO, procedures and training should be developed for all ranks in these units since they will be first on the scene until the Regular Force arrives.

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Re: If Katrina hit Canada
« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2005, 15:52:25 »
Rangerray......
closest reg force are the boys in blue out in Victoria - not Edmonton.
so with Heicopters, Recce group should be on site within the hour.

The authorities were intending to beef up engineer services on the west coast "just in case of the big one" but their 1st idea was to station them right in the middle of the epicentre (figures). They have bought some realestate in Chilliwack (yeah, yeah - the stuff we sold off a few years ago) and the intent was to raise a Reserve Engineer Regiment for the west coast.... a tough go right now.

I can only talk from experience with the Oka Crisis and the Ice Storm... (missed the fires in BC and floods in Wpg) and I must say that all in all, things went remarkedly well - the local authorities have generated plans and they do work....
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Re: If Katrina hit Canada
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2005, 15:57:41 »
You've also got the famous SAR techs in Comox.  :D
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Re: If Katrina hit Canada
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2005, 16:03:20 »
yeah - them too - if they can get their chopprs up in the air on that day (JK)
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Re: If Katrina hit Canada
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2005, 16:20:05 »
Rangerray......
closest reg force are the boys in blue out in Victoria - not Edmonton.
so with Heicopters, Recce group should be on site within the hour.

Thanks for the info. :)   I was referring to reg force army units.  I wasn't sure how much the air force in Comox and navy in Esquimalt could do untill there were army units on the ground, except fly rescue and supply missions to cut-off areas

That would be great if they can establish a reserve engineer regiment in Chilliwack.  IIRC, the only reserve engineer unit in British Columbia is 44 Field Engineer Squadron in Trail, and it would probably take them as long to deploy to the affected area as any unit from Edomonton Garrison.
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