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Advice For FNGs
« on: June 10, 2006, 19:58:26 »
I’m starting this thread for ALL the Recruits here. This is going to be where all the Veterans, and Active Service Members can come to give advice on little things that you should think about. It’s geared towards troops once they’ve completed their Training, and are FNGs in Battalion. Little life lessons, as well as tips on how to do their job better.
I’ll start with a couple that I've learned from my time in.

1. Never buy a car from a used car lot within a 10 mile radius of your base, or if the lot has a sign that says bring in your Pay Statement. Stay away from them.

2. Open up an account with the credit union on base and set up an allotment for $100 every paycheque to go into that account and DO NOT TOUCH IT FOR ANY REASON until you are out of the service. Or, even better, put it into an RRSP.

3. For any and all debt that you may acquire while in the service, i.e. car payment, car insurance, rent if you live off-base and credit cards. Set up and allotment through your Clerk so that you ARE never late on your payments.

4. Every cab driver will tell you that they are a retired sgt. Be careful to pay attention that they are charging you correctly, no matter how drunk you are.

5. If you are pulled over by an MP and you notice that you out rank them, remember that you DON'T out rank them.

6. NEVER date a troop!

7. Wear eye protection. Wear your hearing protection.

8. Drink water. A lot. (Except right before a jump.)

9. Don't become a Kitslut. Just because it’s green/CADPAT/shiny, doesn’t make it a good piece of kit, and doesn’t make you look hard. It makes you look like a fool who can’t tell the difference.
 
10. When going to the field bring a little extra, you never know what’s gonna happen from one day to the next. If you think you have enough socks, you don't. Snivel kit: You can never have enough. Power bars: You may not have time to sit and eat an IMP. Batteries: Everything we have runs on AA batteries, and the CQ can never get enough. Hot sauce: Because IMPs can plug you up, and hot sauce both counter-acts that, and tastes better.

11. Always be flexible. O Groups, training meetings and other random meetings happen just before lunch or time to go home. Something out of the blue will come up and you’re not going home when you thought you where. Adapt.

12. Never pass up a shot at Basic Para Course, or you may never get it, or get it 6 years later, when you already have a few nagging injuries.

13. Never be afraid to ask questions, stupid or otherwise.

14. Save copies of every set of orders and every PER you receive, you might need them
twenty years later.

15. Make copies of your UER and medical records. Every piece of paper that is generated with your name and service number, keep a copy somewhere safe. Trust me.

16. Never lose your needle book.

17. Remember that tobacco runs out faster that you think it will when you are in the field. Better yet: quit!

18. Forget toilet paper, baby wipes pack smaller, and clean everything.

19. There are 3 people you must make friends with:
   1. The Coy Medic
   2. The Coy Clerk
   3. The Cook

20. Don't be First. Don't be Last.

21. Always have a knife, a lighter, a watch, a pad of paper and a pen/pencil when in uniform.

22. Roll everything you pack, it packs smaller than folding.

23. Look out for shack rats, and chicks who want a guaranteed paycheque and subsidized healthcare.

24. There is no such thing as having too much ammo or water.
 
25. Forget about the GPS. Learn how to use a map and compass.

26. When you are in Basic, and Battle School, save ALL of that money. You don't need to be buying a lot of stuff while you are in Training anyways. Really you only need a little to buy crap like soap...and porn. And you WILL need that cash when you get to your unit.

27. (On a personal note) I don't give a frig how cool you were in high school, so shut up about it when us old, fat guys are telling war stories. You might learn something that will keep you alive later. More importantly, you might learn something that will keep ME alive later.

28. Shut up and do what I tell you. It’s for a reason. I don’t tell you to do crap because I like to watch your *** move.

29. If you are offered a course, no matter what it is, TAKE IT! It’s all paper that says you can LEARN to do something, and many translate into civilian courses that would cost you money to re-do.

30. And most importantly USE YOUR BENEFITS! Learn what they all are, and use them. Especially when getting out. No matter where you think you will be in 5 years, you will need that money for school, or re-training, when you get out.

31. Commissioned From The Ranks Officers will resort to wall-to-wall counselling as quick as a grizzled NCO. Don't frig with them.

32. Remember: That broken-down, chubby old man with the Sgt stripes, or WO crown has been doing this for a lot longer than you. He’s still doing the things that are knocking the snot out of you, and he’s twice your age. He was once a young, cocky private too, and he’s learned a lot since then. You CANNOT kick his ***. He WILL hurt you. Badly. Stop thinking you’ll kick his *** someday. You won’t. You will thank him later, though. Even if only in your memories.

33. Know when to violate the "never volunteer rule." If there are multiple tasks to get handed out, always volunteer for the first one. Chances are good that the later options suck a lot more.

34. Master Corporal is the hardest job in the Army. He’s being a dick because he has to. Do what he tells you, and stop bitching about it. He used to be you.

35. There is a fine line between "thief" and Platoon Scrounge. Taking from the Army (or better, the Air Force) to help the troops out is good. Taking from a troop, for any reason is theft, and you deserve to be beaten severely. And often.

36. Learn how to turn a wrench well. Take care of every vehicle you get assigned to you. DO NOT PISS OFF THE MECHANICS.

37. Learn every job in the Platoon. Hump the C9. Hump the C6. Hump the Radio. Your job is to learn your bosses job. If, after a year, you can't be a section 2IC if necessary, you are a lazy shitbird.

38. Learn the difference between "wants and needs."

39. Only pay cash for major items. Get a credit card. Put a little on it, then pay it off promptly. Build a credit rating. You WILL need it later. But, do NOT put everything on plastic. You end up breaking yourself to pay off the interest rate.

40. Strippers are not your friend. They are paid to pretend to be interested in you. You are an open wallet, not a sex object. Actually, you kind of disgust them. Sucker.

41. The best place to meet hot, brainy chicks is the public library, the local college library, or church. You will not meet your life-mate in a meat-market with a neon sign above it.
 
42. NEVER GO INTO DEBT UNLESS YOU’RE LITERALLY SAVING SOMEONE’S LIFE TO DO IT.

43. If you finance a car then make sure it is paid off before you Release.

44. When you Release, look into ALL of your options, INCLUDING the Reserves.

45. Reenlist for the right reasons, not because you have bills to pay. The reasons you chose to Release did not go away, and you will become a drain on your fellow troop’s morale.

46. Go Airborne, stay Airborne! It’s a mind-set, not a hat. Keep the attitude, even when you lose the Beret.

47. Marrying a chick with debt is okay. Marrying a chick that makes you go into debt further every month is STUPID! Staying with her because she gives you steady sex is even stupider.

48. Don't EVER poke your Warrant awake in the field, in the middle of the night while you’re on stove/radio watch. If he needs to be disturbed, wake him with that nice cup of coffee that you just made for yourself. Trust me.

49. The new 2Lt. is not your buddy. I don't care if he likes the same comic books, video games, and likes to hang out. He doesn't need to know anything that your WO, Sect Comd, or Sect 2IC haven't already told him.  He will someday have to order you into a very dangerous situation. Don’t make it harder for him to choose. The hesitation could get you both killed.

50. Being second or third on a course is cool too. Don't be in the lower 2/3rds. Someone has to be, just don’t let it be you.

51. You ever call your Sect Comd "Sarge" expect a beat down. You deserve it. He is a Sergeant. “Sarge” is that clown in the Beetle Bailey comic strip.

52. Shine your damn boots. Blackening is for PONTIs. Soldiers have shiny boots.

53. If your dick is running, or hurt's when you piss, DON’T wait 3 months to tell a doc about it! Better a little embarrassment now, than having it amputated later. And tell your medic first. DO NOT TELL THE WO first. They might be able to help you out and make it go away.

Anyone (BTDT‘s only) have anything to add?
« Last Edit: June 10, 2006, 20:06:27 by paracowboy »
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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2006, 20:10:44 »
Nice thread Para...where were you 15 years ago (especially for all of that great money advice)?  LOL


54. If you screw up, admit it.  Everyone makes a mistake at some point.  But learn from it and don't make the same mistake twice.  And if you're questioned about your mistake, or why you did or didn't do something, Keep It Simple Stupid (learn this, it's the KISS rule).  We don't want to hear a story or long-winded explanation.  "Yes PO (insert appropriate rank here), won't happen again PO" and carry on!
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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2006, 20:15:35 »
55. NEVER LIE. I don't care if you had relations with a nun in a pew. Tell me the truth. It will be far easier on you than when I inevitably discover the truth. And I can never trust you again. The Army runs on accountability and reliability. If you are a liar, you have neither.

56. Never quit. I don't care if you have to drag yourself by your fingernails. Never quit. You can feel pride in a poor performance if it took everything you had, but you will only feel shame if you quit.

57. Always give 100%. Whether it's a ruckmarch or a party. Give everything you have.
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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2006, 20:30:31 »
---------------take care of your kit.........it's yours.  From underwear to Gas maks...take care of it, and dont lose it.
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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2006, 20:34:51 »
58.   Duty first; you and your fun/recreation/sleep last.  For aspiring junior officers/NCOs: learn to manage your time.  There is so much to be done every day, especially in the field and you have to make sure it is all done and done correctly before you eat, sleep or whatever.

59.   Watch the booze.  We all (well many of us, anyway) enjoy a pint or six with our friends.  There is a time and a place for it.  Be careful when enjoying a drink with superiors.  Booze loosens the tongue and inhibitions and you may end up giving verbal evidence of your own stupidity.

60.   The army is a team.  You are a team member – even, perhaps especially when you lead the team.

61.   Learn, LEARN, LEARN!  You never know enough about anything – especially the thing in which you have just been declared expert.  When it is your turn: Teach, TEACH, TEACH!  Postings to schools are sometimes unpopular; they shouldn’t be – usually only good people are selected for tours as instructors; if you are selected go and do the best damn job you can – and be proud of it.
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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2006, 20:35:54 »
59.  Don`t be an *** kisser.  Nobody like them, and nice people like me will let your peers know that you are one, to your face and  in public - then I get to sit back and watch the finger to chest chats start.

60.  Keep your feet hard and if you can`t, learn how to look after them properly if something happens.  Talk to a good medic or old infantry salt to learn how - if your feet are in bad shape, you and your buddies are in fact screwed.

61.  Learn to use a condom properly - a condom a day keeps scrub boy away (ie - me) - whether you`re sober, drunk or in the dark in some car somewhere, know how to get one on properly.  It`ll save you some pain and embarrassment in the future.  This also applies to girls.

62.  Ditto the tobasco or one of those multi spice jars - keeps your bowels moving and makes food oh so much better.

BTW - good idea para.

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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2006, 20:47:36 »
63. No matter what you do, someone will think you are cool, and someone else will consider you a fool. But, you have to look yourself in the eye every morning when you shave.

64. Learn what is important. Your Word, your Duty, your Family. These things are irreplaceable. Material items can be purchased or replaced.

65. Buy, don't rent. Especially land. God stopped making it, so it can only go up in value.

66. RRSPs and Mutual Funds are investments. Beer and cigarettes aren't. Strippers and hookers are not tax-deductible.
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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2006, 20:51:13 »
67.   Think before you speak.  We know you were the top dog in your cadet corps; we don’t much care about what you did; we want to know what you can do.  Actions speak louder than words.
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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2006, 20:53:50 »
Great advice, and great idea Para.

And I have a couple of peices of advice, I may not have been in long, but I learn fast.

68. Waterproof everything.

69. pay attention when someone senior or more experenced says "this is important, write this down, remember this for later etc" no matter how trivial it may seem.

70. Get a sense of humor, and try to keep it no matter how shitty life seems at the time.

71. learn the difference between good and bad advice. get a second opinion if your not sure.
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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2006, 21:04:14 »
72.  Don't be a "blade".  A blade is like a rat, someone who shirks responsibility for their actions, or inactions and points the finger at someone else.  They are also the ones that lie, mislead, stuff like that to try to make themselves look squeeky clean.  Your Cpl/MCpl/Sgt/WO will see right thru, if not immediately, sooner than later.  Once you are labelled a blade, it is hard to shake and you are NOT going to like it.  Hand in hand with "not being a blade" is loyalty...to your section/platoon/whatever. 

73.  If you are former Reserve, DO NOT get to your Reg Frce unit and say "well at Unit X, we did it like this".  You are not there anymore. 


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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2006, 21:07:28 »
For young officers:
  Your idea is probably not new. If the old hands tell you it won't work, listen to them.  Bear in mind that you hold your position for a year, and are probably his 6th or 7th troop/pl Comd.  He knows it won't work, because he's tried it 6 or 7 times.
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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2006, 21:09:22 »
73b.  And if you are a current reserve, attached to a RegF unit, don't assume that just because you are the same rank as buddy next to you, that you are equals.  YOU'RE NOT (usually).  Respect his TI and experience, and learn from it.
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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2006, 21:11:24 »
73c.  Prove yourself through actions, not words, and your own TI and experience will also be respected.  Either way, you will be remembered when you return for another deployment.

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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2006, 21:17:14 »
74. You don’t need a tricked-out sports car, Yamasushi rice-rocket, or monster-truck 4x4 right now. What you need is cheap and reliable transportation. The money you save on payments and fuel now, can go towards paying CASH for your dream-machine later.

75. Listen to your MCpls, they want you to succeed. Likewise the Cpls and senior Privates in your platoon. They’re acting out of enlightened self-interest. If you screw up, they have to take up your slack, and spend all their time baby-sitting.
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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2006, 21:30:29 »
A few from me - from a different perspective...

74.  At the beginning, you’re nothing special.  The fat old guy in front of you has seen hundreds, if not thousands of soldiers before you.  You get “special” with experience - respect is earned.

75.  Unsolicited ideas are appreciated, especially if they make everyone’s life easier or contribute to success.  Sarcastic “I know better than you” advice or constant bright ideas are annoying and will earn you the wrath of your superiors.

76.  Helping the new officer out is never a bad thing; blading him is. Remember, despite the bumbling newbie he might be now, he may well be a grizzled old Major with a good memory someday.

77.  When deploying, listen to the clerks and ask questions about your benefits if you don’t understand.  Make certain you know where your money is going.

78.    You’re not “on tour” until your boots hit the ground in theatre.  Politicians decide when/where we deploy, not the Army, and missions have been cancelled with zero notice before.  If your mission is cancelled, suck it up and soldier on – there’ll be another one.  Don’t spend tour money before you’ve earned it.

79.  “Snivvel kit” isn’t.  Being comfortable contributes to your own operational effectiveness; any idiot can be miserable.

80.  Don’t buy a big honking knife.  You won’t need it and you’ll look stupid.

81.  Remember that you – or your older buddies – just may not have the “big picture”.

82.  It’s every soldier’s right to complain, but there’s a fine line between complaining and whining.  Try not to cross it.

83.  In the field (or on operations), your officer is scrambling trying to get everything done – stuff you don’t even have to think about until you hit MCpl and stuff you normally don’t even get to see.  While you’re worrying about when you’re on radio watch, he’s worrying about how not to get you killed.

84.  Barrack-room lawyers are usually wrong.

85.  If you’re hurt in training, tell someone.  It might be cool to soldier on, but you’ll regret it 10-15 years from now.
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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2006, 21:34:30 »
86.  One Man - One Kit.  Make sure that you take care of your kit.  If you are not using it, put it back where you got it.  If you got it out of your ruck, put it back into your ruck.  If you got it off your vehicle, restow it.  If you got it out of your closet, put it back.  You'll never loose kit if you take care of it.

87.  Buy a house.  If you are tired of the shacks, don't rent an apartment, buy a house.  The mortgage will probably be less than the rent.  Get a fair size house and have a couple of friends move in with you and pay you rent or share the mortgage.  If you are married, buy a house, don't live in the PMQs or an apartment.  If you buy a house, by the time you retire, you will own a house.  One of two things will happen:  1.  You will be mortgage free or close to it; or 2. You will own a house, that you will be able to sell and purchase another (if not put a decent down payment on another) wherever you want to move to on Retirement.

88.  Don't live in the Qs and buy that big car, a SUV, a snowmobile, an ATV, a camper and yacht.  When you retire, you'll have to sell it all to get a mortgage on a house.

89.  Enjoy as many Tours and Courses as you can when you are single, it is a lot harder when you are married.

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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2006, 21:49:28 »
90. Keep in mind, there is a fine line between “hard” and “stupid”. Learn to recognize that line before you cross it. It’s uglier on the wrong side.

91. There is a difference between “hurt” and “hurting”. When things get rough, EVERYONE is hurting. That is when you cowboy up and drive on. When you are hurt, you become a liability to your platoon. Learn to recognize the difference, and not cross that line.
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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2006, 22:14:48 »
92. stay the hell away from drugs. Period.
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2006, 23:45:06 »
93.  If you wouldn't want your Mother to know what you're about to do - it's probably wrong - don't do it.
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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2006, 23:53:12 »
94.  When you chose the action, you also chose the consequences.  (CWO Surridge)
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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2006, 23:59:49 »
95. Swearing is not an "Army thing". Actually, it makes you look pretty stupid when you are home on leave and ask her to "Pass the f*ckin' peas" Not every second word has to be an expletive, you may want to have kids one day and, trust me, your wide will not appreciate Johnny or Janie being sent home from pre school for expanding the other kids vocabulary.
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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2006, 00:08:29 »
96. All Range time is time well spent. "A bad day on the Range beats a great day in Garrison.

97.Learn your weapon be your weapon if it's a C7 know everything you can on it, if it's a M777 the same applies. Your life and your sections may someday count on it!.
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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2006, 00:30:51 »
Wow, great thread...I, too, am copying this into a Word doc.

One thing I hear hubby say alot:

98. Time spent on recce is never time wasted, though you will never get that time back, you will be that much smarter for it.
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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2006, 02:27:28 »
99. Fail to plan, plan to fail.

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Re: Advice For FNGs
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2006, 08:18:19 »
100. Don't feel bad or get angry for doing a little extra. Chances are someone else important is watching and taking notice. So what if your peers choose to be a little slack. Doesn't mean you have to be and more importantly, you know you're being the best soldier that you can be.

101. Everyone has the ability to be a good soldier. Some may require a bit more effort and determination but everyone can get there. Don't try to be a great soldier from the start; learn to be a good one before aspiring to be a great one. Once you realized that you stopped trying to be the best soldier that you can be, question why you are still in the army and wearing the uniform.

102. You don't have to like everyone that you work with, but you must work with him/her as a team because you two might be in life and death situation together.

103. There is a line between teasing and malicious attacks. Joking is fine but when a buddy says stop, stop. You're not doing his morale any good. Likewise, learn to grow some thick skin. Army humour can be rough at times and the boys (and girls) are usually just kidding, not meaning to hurt you.

104. People may respect your rank, but not you. Don't ever assume that because you have a certain rank, you are automatically given respect to you personally. Respect is earned, not given.

105. Don't resent if someone with equal rank or lesser rank is put in authority position over you. Chances are someone up the chain did it on purpose and you're not going to make the job any easier by being resentful of it.

106. If you're going to challenge someone who is in higher position than you, remember that his authority is delegated from all the way from the top, meaning the Queen.
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