Topic: The Red Fridays Foundation of Canada & Repatriation Memorial Rally (May 08): Objections & Praise

[teddybear]

As far as I know, none of the families that I know have a problem with a red rally. We have attended those that we could . The biggest complaint that I have heard is the simulated procession along the Highway of Heros. Red Fridays is about supporting our serving troops. Trust me when I say that as far as my family is concerned, we do not need anymore processions. The repats, funerals and memorials have all been done and now we choose how to honour our loved ones. For most of us, that will happen on the anniversary and on Nov 11th. Had this rally been just a support rally there would probably be very few objections. We appreciate all those who stand on the overpasses as our loved ones passed on their final journies.

[LadySierra]

As far as I know, none of the families that I know have a problem with a red rally. We have attended those that we could . The biggest complaint that I have heard is the simulated procession along the Highway of Heros.

Agreed.

Unfortunately, in my opinion of course, this was put together all wrong. Perhaps a little more thought should have been involved surrounding the day's 'activities'
From the feedback here, and elsewhere all day today, this is not something that people are ok with, families of fallen included.

Teddybear, thank you for posting.

[Blindspot]

I too was eager to attend the rally at Downsview before reading this thread. Not so much anymore. The rally now seems to me like two very different events of differing atmosphere welded together: one sombre (and perhaps not appropriate) and the other, "Family Fun".

So, I'm thinking what if we had an annual Canadian Forces Day, a day of "Family Fun" to show support for those who currently serve. Not a holiday but maybe a day in late spring or early summer. I recall as a very young child attending military shows and tattoos in stadiums. Why couldn't we have a full day of events, displays and demonstrations of all things Canadian Forces? Downsview would be the perfect place for such an event.

-Display hardware past and present
-Demonstrations such as the QOR rapelling from a helicopter, 7 Tor firing their guns, etc.
-Massed bands, pipes and drums.

This would be a fabulous oppurtunity for the public to really engage with serving members. I recall the family day at Borden a couple of years ago as an example. Kids played games and had fun. Might also be a great oppurtunity for recruitment.

Wouldn't something like this be feasible?

Mods, if this is off topic, I apologize.

[MCG]

Mods, if this is off topic, I apologize.

Your sentiment might better fit in the Peacekeeping day thread:  http://forums.milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,76831.msg717291.html#msg717291

[LadySierra]

So, I'm thinking what if we had an annual Canadian Forces Day, a day of "Family Fun" to show support for those who currently serve.

Actually, there is already a day set aside annually for this exact thing which is commonly referred to as 'Canadian Forces' day.
Different bases go about it in different ways, for example, this Friday in Ottawa, NDHQ has organized, for the second year in a row, a "run in red" which consists of a 7km run in which all participants wear something red and run the course.

I know here in Petawawa, CF day generally consists of a large display of military vehicles, displays and such. It's normally a very "fun" day for all involved.

However, the event planned for this weekend gives the impression of fun is not exactly appropriate in my eyes in connection with the rest of the planned events.
I don't believe they belong together.

[the 48th regulator]

I too was eager to attend the rally at Downsview before reading this thread. Not so much anymore. The rally now seems to me like two very different events of differing atmosphere welded together: one sombre (and perhaps not appropriate) and the other, "Family Fun".

So, I'm thinking what if we had an annual Canadian Forces Day, a day of "Family Fun" to show support for those who currently serve. Not a holiday but maybe a day in late spring or early summer. I recall as a very young child attending military shows and tattoos in stadiums. Why couldn't we have a full day of events, displays and demonstrations of all things Canadian Forces? Downsview would be the perfect place for such an event.

-Display hardware past and present
-Demonstrations such as the QOR rapelling from a helicopter, 7 Tor firing their guns, etc.
-Massed bands, pipes and drums.

This would be a fabulous oppurtunity for the public to really engage with serving members. I recall the family day at Borden a couple of years ago as an example. Kids played games and had fun. Might also be a great oppurtunity for recruitment.

Wouldn't something like this be feasible?

Mods, if this is off topic, I apologize.

You mean something like The Warriors' Day Parade

http://www.thewarriorsdayparade.ca/


Established in 1921, The Warriors' Day Parade takes place in August of each year during the opening weekend of The Canadian National Exhibition (CNE) in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. The longest-running, annual parade of its' type, The Warriors' Day Parade is an important Canadian tradition and a very significant event for our Veterans, our brave men and women who currently serve in Canada's military, their families and the general public.

We are pleased to announce the details of the 87th Warriors' Day Parade which to be held on Saturday, August 16th, 2008. This year the theme of the Parade is 'SALUTING OUR VETERANS, SUPPORTING OUR TROOPS'. We also remember the 90th anniversary of the end of World War I. Complete Information about the Parade is available on this website by going to our Parade Info page. Please do not hesitate to contact us should you require further information. Email addresses are shown at the bottom of this page.

dileas

tess

[LadySierra]

You something like The Warriors' Day Parade

The Warrior's day parade is a wonderful show of support and I did hear about the theme of this years parade at the CNE this summer. I believe that it is for this particular event that Lisa and I have been asked to be in attendance.
I look forward to it.

These are the perfect displays of support... this is what we like to see when we talk about supporting the men and woman in the canadian forces and their families!!

[captainj]

I have some intimate knowledge of this business a few things to ponder as follows;

1. They claim not to accept gratuities, if that "free" car is not a gratuitiy I do not know what is. I would suggest it is woth $700.00 per month. That kindest thing I can say about that car is rather exploitive at best. The fallen are living souls who should be remembered, their names belong on graves, cenotaphs, unit lines and in our hearts. NOT I repeat NOT on a commercial enterprise with a car dealerships logo on it. May I suggest we start a petition the Chrysler and ask that it be removed from the road ASAP. If not that why not call Scarsview Dodge Chryser to express our displeasure at this crass and tasteless heap of iron. BTW the phone # 416 281 6200I for one will never purchase a Chrysler product so long as that car is on the road. Can anyone tell me how that car supports anyone in the CF?  In the event Chrysler or a dealership really wants to show support they could give that car to the MFRC in Trenton or any other that may need it (wrapping removed of course). Better yet why not rig out a Magic Van so one of our amputees could use it or perhaps at a MFRC for the greater good of all.

2. While there may be a few NOK who have no issues with their loved ones names being on the car I think the lions share object. The fact that this business chose not to seek permission speaks volumes.

3. They claim to have only collected a few 100 dollars at the many shows they go to sell wares at. I challange that statement. I have personally witnessed them and the brisk trade they do at the  2007 and 2008 International Motor Cycle show. Folks this show attracts 60K over a weekend in Jan. I think it is fair to say the Motor Cycle crowd are generous to a fault. At this booth they have the old donation box. I suggest they collect a few 100 dollars out of that. Insofar as sales go I suggest they would gross several 1000 at the prices they charge they net a tidy sum. This is but one event they do a number of them a year. All cash business not including his internet business. Every T shirt every ribbon etc he sells take away from MFRC's and CFPSA at the end of the day the troops. They also say they pay for booth space I challange them to show me reciepts from this show anyhow considering they were in the charity area. Hmmm interesting very few events are posted as past events makes you wonder.

4. The web site is always changing and in a flux whenever they are questioned or caught out. Point in fact some time ago they had the image of the CDS on his donate now button. That folks is a defacto endorsement. I can only assume they were asked to pull it along with the other images they posted to give the illusion of being associated with the CF.They had some of our wounded posted on the site and were asked several times to remove this illusion of endorsement. They basically blew them off by saying their image was public property NOT TRUE. I suggest as a business they would require a models release. They in fact had a picture of a charity event that involved Don Cherry and Ron McClean that supported the troops. Why you ask hmmm I guess with those two Cdn icons it may look like an endorsement. Only after the Toronto Sun article did they pull them. Now I ask you are these the actions of a business the "Supports the Troops". I say no rather a business that not only exploits our fallen but also our wounded.

5. Let's talk about their latest charity (They have in the past articulated several none have collected other than the grand sum of $1000.00 to CFPSA) The Canadian Hearing Society, last time I looked VAC looked after our folks as well as the CF Med system. Now I am not saying that this group is bad. Rather The Red Friday Foundation is embelishing the impact they have on the troops both old and new. I may be wrong on this but I await to be corrected.

6. It would be interesting to find out what sales pitch they used with his corporate sponsors (particularly the car) again we should call them each and every one to express our displeasure. After all a business understands what a bottom line is. Indeed a business cares about upsetting potential customers.

7. The Red Fridays Foundation is a business that uses the word "foundation" this word conjures and creates the illusion of charity. While it is true they post this on the web site on the "About us" button one has to dig deep. I think it is fair to say most folks do not read web site rather they peruse them see pictures of that appear legit etc then donate (BTW I do not know of any "business" that asks for donations I guess that is another one of thos magical words that charities use). Take a read of the About Us button they very losely articulate what their expenses are. my pers fav is the one on purchasing SOT items, hello you then sell them and reclaim your costs and then make a profit hardly an expense.

8. As a "Non Profit" business it is true one generally does not draw a salary but boy those expenses can sure add up. Of course as a business there is no transparancy whatsoever. Now that they are under the gun they say they will at some point sometime open the books. did I mention that at shows it is all cash.........They say they are looking into being a charity whatever that means. this is inconsistant with the reason they give for not being a charity. They state the reason we are not a charity is as a charity we cannot give to another charity. This is true Rev Canada is very clear on what a charity can do. so my question is after 2 plus years as a business you have given $1000.00. show me the money. to me this is nothing but shape shifting when asked a simple question.

9. BTW what is the awareness business, cute as a fox I think. What I want to know is who asked them to be an advocate (we have a few pretty good ones incl the new VAC ambudsman) for the troops and what have they done. The last time I looked it was the short form of Richard.

10. Finally, the facts are this business took a great grass roots idea started by 2 very special ladies i am honoured to call friends. They took it contorted and twisted a lovely thing and made it a ugly nasty business to serve only one end. They were cunning enough to take the concept and protect "their" intellectual property.

There is a latin word for that th__f you fill in the blanks.

This was the act of a bully, confirmed by todays radio AM640 int with one of the girls. Generally when one does not let the other speak when it is their turn it is considered "me thinks thou protest too much". Usually this is because ones back is agaist the wall aka Hillery.

What we need to do is to keep reminding Cdns  that this is a business nothing more nothing less.

legal yes it is the intent that is in question. The good news is Canadians heard what they are really about, bullys who bully our wounded, and two very fine Canadians my "red fridays" girls.

Bullys who have exploited our fallen and put the NOK in a difficult position. They need to be tried in the court of public opinion where Canadians can see the unvarnished truth.

[Nerf herder]

I have some intimate knowledge of this business a few things to ponder as follows;1. They claim not to accept gratuities, if that "free" car is not a gratuitiy I do not know what is. I would suggest it is woth $700.00 per month. That kindest thing I can say about that car is rather exploitive at best. The fallen are living souls who should be remembered, their names belong on graves, cenotaphs, unit lines and in our hearts. NOT I repeat NOT on a commercial enterprise with a car dealerships logo on it. May I suggest we start a petition the Chrysler and ask that it be removed from the road ASAP. If not that why not call Scarsview Dodge Chryser to express our displeasure at this crass and tasteless heap of iron. BTW the phone # 416 281 6200I for one will never purchase a Chrysler product so long as that car is on the road. Can anyone tell me how that car supports anyone in the CF?  In the event Chrysler or a dealership really wants to show support they could give that car to the MFRC in Trenton or any other that may need it (wrapping removed of course). Better yet why not rig out a Magic Van so one of our amputees could use it or perhaps at a MFRC for the greater good of all.2. While there may be a few NOK who have no issues with their loved ones names being on the car I think the lions share object. The fact that this business chose not to seek permission speaks volumes.3. They claim to have only collected a few 100 dollars at the many shows they go to sell wares at. I challange that statement. I have personally witnessed them and the brisk trade they do at the  2007 and 2008 International Motor Cycle show. Folks this show attracts 60K over a weekend in Jan. I think it is fair to say the Motor Cycle crowd are generous to a fault. At this booth they have the old donation box. I suggest they collect a few 100 dollars out of that. Insofar as sales go I suggest they would gross several 1000 at the prices they charge they net a tidy sum. This is but one event they do a number of them a year. All cash business not including his internet business. Every T shirt every ribbon etc he sells take away from MFRC's and CFPSA at the end of the day the troops. They also say they pay for booth space I challange them to show me reciepts from this show anyhow considering they were in the charity area. Hmmm interesting very few events are posted as past events makes you wonder.4. The web site is always changing and in a flux whenever they are questioned or caught out. Point in fact some time ago they had the image of the CDS on his donate now button. That folks is a defacto endorsement. I can only assume they were asked to pull it along with the other images they posted to give the illusion of being associated with the CF.They had some of our wounded posted on the site and were asked several times to remove this illusion of endorsement. They basically blew them off by saying their image was public property NOT TRUE. I suggest as a business they would require a models release. They in fact had a picture of a charity event that involved Don Cherry and Ron McClean that supported the troops. Why you ask hmmm I guess with those two Cdn icons it may look like an endorsement. Only after the Toronto Sun article did they pull them. Now I ask you are these the actions of a business the "Supports the Troops". I say no rather a business that not only exploits our fallen but also our wounded.5. Let's talk about their latest charity (They have in the past articulated several none have collected other than the grand sum of $1000.00 to CFPSA) The Canadian Hearing Society, last time I looked VAC looked after our folks as well as the CF Med system. Now I am not saying that this group is bad. Rather The Red Friday Foundation is embelishing the impact they have on the troops both old and new. I may be wrong on this but I await to be corrected.6. It would be interesting to find out what sales pitch they used with his corporate sponsors (particularly the car) again we should call them each and every one to express our displeasure. After all a business understands what a bottom line is. Indeed a business cares about upsetting potential customers.7. The Red Fridays Foundation is a business that uses the word "foundation" this word conjures and creates the illusion of charity. While it is true they post this on the web site on the "About us" button one has to dig deep. I think it is fair to say most folks do not read web site rather they peruse them see pictures of that appear legit etc then donate (BTW I do not know of any "business" that asks for donations I guess that is another one of thos magical words that charities use). Take a read of the About Us button they very losely articulate what their expenses are. my pers fav is the one on purchasing SOT items, hello you then sell them and reclaim your costs and then make a profit hardly an expense.8. As a "Non Profit" business it is true one generally does not draw a salary but boy those expenses can sure add up. Of course as a business there is no transparancy whatsoever. Now that they are under the gun they say they will at some point sometime open the books. did I mention that at shows it is all cash.........They say they are looking into being a charity whatever that means. this is inconsistant with the reason they give for not being a charity. They state the reason we are not a charity is as a charity we cannot give to another charity. This is true Rev Canada is very clear on what a charity can do. so my question is after 2 plus years as a business you have given $1000.00. show me the money. to me this is nothing but shape shifting when asked a simple question.9. BTW what is the awareness business, cute as a fox I think. What I want to know is who asked them to be an advocate (we have a few pretty good ones incl the new VAC ambudsman) for the troops and what have they done. The last time I looked it was the short form of Richard.10. Finally, the facts are this business took a great grass roots idea started by 2 very special ladies i am honoured to call friends. They took it contorted and twisted a lovely thing and made it a ugly nasty business to serve only one end. They were cunning enough to take the concept and protect "their" intellectual property. There is a latin word for that th__f you fill in the blanks. This was the act of a bully, confirmed by todays radio AM640 int with one of the girls. Generally when one does not let the other speak when it is their turn it is considered "me thinks thou protest too much". Usually this is because ones back is agaist the wall aka Hillery. What we need to do is to keep reminding Cdns  that this is a business nothing more nothing less. legal yes it is the intent that is in question. The good news is Canadians heard what they are really about, bullys who bully our wounded, and two very fine Canadians my "red fridays" girls. Bullys who have exploited our fallen and put the NOK in a difficult position. They need to be tried in the court of public opinion where Canadians can see the unvarnished truth.

Holy run on sentences batman.

If you want to be taken seriously in your posts then please take the time to put it into paragraphs.

The Army.ca staff

[captainj]

Fair enough actually did but somehow when I posted it kinda went nuts on me. Give me a break I only mastered the rotory phone last year LOL. Thanks ever so much for fixing it up for me.

[ENGINEERS WIFE]

I personally have thought alot about this today. 
And for me I find that I have personal issues with Repatriation Rally and the Red Friday foundation.  Not in the fact that they are having them.  I realize that some find the rally itself may be painful, I can definitely understand why some families would not like to participate, but, for some other families it might give them some closure. I don't know, I have not been in their shoes, I don't really care to assume how they are feel about it.  Everyone with a fallen family member has their own individual thoughts and feeling.  And none of them are wrong. 
It just is.
My issue is that I feel it that I have thought this was a charitable thing, but to find out that they have donated less than a $1000 raises lots of questions for me.   Where is all the money?  And after looking at their web site, I question if all these businesses, charities and families have been mislead?  Maybe they were all as surprised by what they read when they opened the paper.  And why weren't the families of the fallen weren't asked if their family members name could be put on the car?  It raises more questions. 
I doesn't seem all above board for me, and we don't seem to get any solid answers from the foundation.
I wish this wasn't an issue and it was all good.  I hope that we get the answers, but I have a feeling we won't. 
Sorry isn't going to cut it.

This will NOT stop me from supporting the troops, wearing red on Friday or paying my respects when a hero has fallen.

[geo]

Refs to TOronto's Warrior day parade.... Excellent!

Quebec City has decided to extend Freedom of the City to 5 CMBG.  The parade is happening on or around Canada day
This'll be year 2 that 5 CMBG will be parading thru the City, drums beating, flags flying and bayonnets fixed.... well, they'll be fixed after the Freedom of the City has been given

Who woulda thought... Quebec City liking it's soldiers

[the 48th regulator]

My point, from the very beginning of this thread, was that we already have days and functions dedicated to the soldier.

All I am seeing is a re-hashing of what is already out there, and to me it reeks of ignorance.

The original Red Friday idea was original, yet others have taken it and bent it for there own purposes and agenda, hence the ignorance I talk about.

Rememberance Day, Warriors Day Parade, and The original Red Friday campaign covers what All others are trying to do  and moan that there is lack of recognistion.

Get out there and support traditions that have been around for decades, even the little brother Red Friday!

dileas

tess

[LadySierra]

First of all to CaptainJ, Thank you!

Everything we've been trying to say and so much more, you've accomplished.
This topic pulls right at our heart strings so sometimes, it's difficult to put what/how we're feeling about all this into a proper, intelligent sentence (especially when, like yesterday we were so very frustrated and pulling our hair out lol)... You my friend have done so. Thanks!
Don't even get me started about that AM640 interview....LOL but you're right, i'm not the one left looking a fool. 


Engineer's wife, you're not alone. In the very beginning when this foundation/website was first discovered, although we did not trust it, we gave it an honest to goodness chance, we also gave the owner/operator an honest chance as well, even after discovering that he had deceived us before we even knew him, or him us!
Many people believed that this was going to turn out to be a good thing. Lisa and I tried to work with him and his foundation for a short time, unfortunately we were blindsided by it all.
The site/foundation seemed to be mimicking our message. At first glance redfridays.ca seemed like a wonderful place to visit to learn more about RF, the original story behind it and of course our story behind RF in Canada.

You are certainly not alone in wondering where all the money is, but because the RFFD is a registered business and NOT a registered charity, they are not required to provide their financials to anyone unless they are audited.
It all seems so very wrong. I BELIEVE it is all very wrong!
How can someone take such an innocent thing, something that was simply an avenue for Canadians to show their support to members of the Canadian forces and their families, and turn it into something soooo very commercialized.

Regardless of any of this, the important thing is to remember that RED FRIDAYS is solely about wearing red on Fridays as a visual show of support to our Canadian armed forces men and woman and of course, their families as well.   

[TSL]

Why stop there? Why not put coffins in the vehicles? Why not hold a simulated full-blown funeral as well?

While OPP participation is a nice gesture on their part, I think that if somebody suggested showing support for police by simulating a police funeral parade, they might not be quite so enthusiastic.

The disrespect shown to at least some families is extremely distressing as well.

Good point ... I am sure more people would see and understand what is not right with this part of their event!
The drive part of this rally ... does not sit well with me ... and from the feedback and what we've read and heard ... it doesn't sit well with alot of people


The car should never have had the names of all the fallen on it .... not without first ASKING ALL the families permission ... and having ALL families agree (and should there have been mixed opinions within those family units about this ... it should not be considered) to assume that a name is PUBLIC because it was printed in the papers or on websites (when the media/DND announced the names of our fallen) is wrong
They are gone from this earth but thier names are STILL THEIRS .... you don't take something just because someone isn't using it anymore and turn around and use it for your own purposes!!!! IE: placing it on a car and parading it down the road (even if you state it is to honour our fallen) the name and the use of the name should be at the discretion of the families

I am sorry, but in MY opinion ... by stating ALL over the web and in the news that the names of all the fallen are on the vehicle and that said vehicle will be auctioned off later and so on and so forth ... that's using the fallen to generate more attention ... and that is very very WRONG <again my opinion>

Shame on those who came up with this idea!!!

a radio host made this comment and it hit the nail on the head

There is a reason we have only ONE tomb of the unknown soldier

That unknown solider is symbolic of ALL the hero's we've lost  <<correct me if I am wrong>>

Why did REDFRIDAYS.CA not just have one BLANK RED CAR drive the highway in honour of our fallen ?
it would have been very symbolic ... no?


just an FYI : at every rally event I have held or seen or been told about ... there has ALWAYS been a moment or two of silence in honour of our fallen and their families

THAT is my two cents worth .... maybe a little more than 2 cents!!!

I will continue to wear red every Friday!

[Trinity]

Straight from their website

 

Our Mission:

    * To promote wearing Red on Fridays that is impartial to any world events and remain non partisan on supporting the Canadian Troops.
    * To offer all  organizations that support the movement to wear Red on Fridays a common website portal for their events and assistance in organizing their events.
    * To respect all soldiers that have given their lives for Canada by publishing a memorial for those that have fallen recently
    * To create brand recognition the RED FRIDAYS RIBBON as a nationally recognized symbol for support of our Canadian troops.
    * To offer media a single source of Red Fridays activities nation wide.
    * To be recognized as a Canadian source for supporting Canadian troops, Canadian Forces activities information and liaison for Canadian Citizens to show support to our troops.
 

Brand recognition as a support for Canadian troops..... ok...!!!?!?!

Go into their products for sale and you'll see this


American flag with red fridays on the bottom???

So... how does having an American flag help their goal of brand recognition for Canada???
Isn't that contrary to their own mission statement!??!?!


They also have an American Soldier pic on their front page.
They still have that fake spam letter on their site.
They still have the pic of a certain injured Cpl (name withheld) on their site after he asked for it to come down.

Wow...  just wow. 


edit: btw... not attacking America in any way (I appreciate our allies)

[LadySierra]

They still have the pic of a certain injured Cpl (name withheld) on their site after he asked for it to come down.

Seems pretty contradictory, his mission statement that is, doesn't it?

As for that certain Cpl, he's been asking for quite some time to have any info pertaining to him removed from the site, and as you can see, it's still there. I'm certainly NOT surprised!
The info should have been removed upon FIRST request. Although, it never seems to happen that way.

[captainj]

Lady Sierra thanks for that but you 2 have show incredible courage over the past couple of days thank you.

History is a great teacher or so they say. Like the Red Fridays girls a certain reg charity named after a unnamed Cpl who was then a Sapper also  gave The Red Fridays Foundation every chance. He asked to help us in our fundraising efforts. We did what most do and take people on faith. Guess what after approx 6 months of him doing business using our name by way of endorsement lunch bag let down. We saw the level of business he was doing and asked for the net profits as he promised. What we got was I am out of work, I have expenses, that is not what we agreed to etc. Now to be fair he did give us were the takings of the donation box no more than a few 100 dollars, I can only assume the figures were correct. However nothing from product sales. At the 2007 International Motorcycle Show he reported grossing $7K cash plus. That would net approx $4K just one event a long time ago show me the money. We walked away feeling a bit foolish and duped. I do not fault any corporation or car dealership who did the same thing we did. It is called trust a human flaw I suppose. If I couild turn back the hands of time......

So here we are now some 2 years later. I have a crazy idea on the Red Fridays Foundation they articulate they will "donate" to the Tony Stacey Centre, The RCL comforts fund, and The Cdn Hearing Society. Why not releave the Foundation of such a heavy burden and donate directly to these worthy causes.

On another matter what do you guys think about the petition/letter and or calls to the dealership and thje Chrysler Corp. "Get that Car off the road".

[Leebaby]

I'll sign the petition to get the car off the road.

[TSL]

Red Fridays Foundation claims that they have not received complaints about their rally/drive (as of the other day anyway!)

I would like to encourage all of you, who have issue with ANY PART of this weekends events to email them to his site!

Sometimes we complain a lot  to each other but never to those who we are truly upset with ... Do not be silent ... send your thoughts

[Loachman]

Red Fridays Foundation claims that they have not received complaints about their rally/drive (as of the other day anyway!)

Perhaps they're not reading their mail.

They are certainly not responding immediately.

[Yrys]

Red Fridays Foundation claims that they have not received complaints about their rally/drive (as of the other day anyway!)

I would like to encourage all of you, who have issue with ANY PART of this weekends events to email them to his site!

Erased my line with their address. Sorry about that .

[George Wallace]

Perhaps their "SPAM FILTER" filters more than just Spam.

To combat spam we require you to enter the answer to the security question on the left.

[Yrys]

Well, I can't get pass that filter (answered 5 questions so far)  !

add :

(What color do you wear on Fridays? , The capital of Canada , What month is Canada Day? What city is the rally starting in? ,
How many Canadian soldiers have been lost?, Enter Canada in caps. , What Canadian road is known as the Highway of Heros? ,
What is the month after July.  , What month is Christmas? )

[MCG]

While I appreciate that many are not pleased with Red Fridays Foundation of Canada and a lot of what it has done.  As a preemptive caution, please do not use this site as a stagging area to coordinate actions against that organization.