Topic: What Not to Do - no excuse

[CDN Aviator]

BMQ is so easy its sooo funny. people stress over whats going to happen. they are going to break you down and rebuild you there. thats the point of the course.  the only thing i have to say is have a ghost kit so u dont use any inspection kit. thats it. and comply with every command given. do not question the stupid stuff they will make you do. it all has a purpose. your lucky in st jean. i had to wax my room floor almost three times a week on my QL3 course. and we had to polish 36 brass door plates our staff scuffed sometimes. and we had to wax a floor 75 feet long. so take it one day at a time and smile while you eat your own crap!! and have fun because i did. i had a good attitude. they sense a bad attitude and will weed you out. dont work hard. same thing. basic is there to see who is the shakers and movers. less than 1 year later i am a qualified engineer. and damn proud of how hard my courses were. i am a tougher person because of it.

Glad you had a good time and that CFSME was to your liking.

i can handle almost all stress.

No offense but you realy havent experienced real stress yet

[engnr]

how do you know what i have gone through? and attitude is everything. if i doubt myself i will get myself or ever worse my friend killed. i have confidence in myself. you dont know me. and what i have gone through in my days. i have had a home invasion. i was on my knees with some thug with a gun to me. and i was cooler than ice. and i was sure i was dead. up until i knew he didnt wanna kill me. because he couldnt look me in the eyes. attitude is everything i am sure we can agree on that. new recruits must have a good attitude. they need to exibit the professionalism they need to in our line of work. instead of being just a PR liability.  so when i go to afghanistan in 2010 with my regiment i will have the attitude i need to survive and the motivation to keep us all alive over there. have you done a feild excercise as a combat engineer? because thats pretty stressful! LOL

[CDN Aviator]

how do you know what i have gone through?

I was a combat engineer for 11 years and an instructor at CFSME for 3 years

Thats how i know exactly what you have gone through so far in your career

[engnr]

ah well chimo brother!!!

[Kelevra]

Hey Spr. FItzy! I just want to know where did you hide your ghost kit in your BMQ? Oh and by the way, darn impressive your home invasion experience!

[engnr]

find somewhere to hide it. i have no idea where your doing basic. most likely they will have a civi lock up. you can hide it there. i had a small bag with everything i needed. just dont let them find it. and dont hide stuff in your ruck and pockets of your clothes.

[recceguy]

find somewhere to hide it. i have no idea where your doing basic. most likely they will have a civi lock up. you can hide it there. i had a small bag with everything i needed. just dont let them find it. and dont hide stuff in your ruck and pockets of your clothes.

So you're advocating contravening the rules..........again? You're whole history here is about how to break the rules, and get by the easiest way possible . You must believe you're Richard Gere in an Officer and a Gentleman. Do you think this is the kind of value we want to instill in the guy that may have to save your life? I pity our Engineer family with the likes of you on board, or any other trade that has to depend on a section you're in for a task in the field. Especially one that means life or death.

I won't sugarcoat it for you. I suggest you just shut your cake hole and quit giving advice. You're neither in the position, nor have the mentality or values, to pass anything on, to anyone, of any value whatsoever.

BTW, just because you have the badge, and something like a year in, doesn't make you an Engineer. You have a long way to go before I trust anything YOU build.

[JBoyd]

So you're advocating contravening the rules..........again? You're whole history here is about how to break the rules, and get by the easiest way possible . You must believe you're Richard Gere in an Officer and a Gentleman. Do you think this is the kind of value we want to instill in the guy that may have to save your life? I pity our Engineer family with the likes of you on board, or any other trade that has to depend on a section you're in for a task in the field. Especially one that means life or death.

I won't sugarcoat it for you. I suggest you just shut your cake hole and quit giving advice. You're neither in the position, nor have the mentality or values, to pass anything on, to anyone, of any value whatsoever.

BTW, just because you have the badge, and something like a year in, doesn't make you an Engineer. You have a long way to go before I trust anything YOU build.

+1

I have read many threads here, and on a few of the CF related facebook groups, and personally I plan on doing things the way you are told to do so, there is no need to cut corners as it will only come to bit you in the a$$ in the end (at least that has been my experience so far in life)

[Nerf herder]

BTW, just because you have the badge, and something like a year in, doesn't make you an Engineer. You have a long way to go before I trust anything YOU build.

Or anything you say is cleared.

Regards

[Sapper_Clarke]

Ouch

[Nerf herder]

So you're advocating contravening the rules..........again?

Why not? Seems PERSEC rules don't apply to him either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI98HY0hN68

I suggest that you, Spr FItzy, go on listening silence for a while.

The Army.ca Staff

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Well, at least you've taken the video of Youtube and changed your name,.......but I just have to wonder how many snapshots of your dogtags were taken though.....

[Nerf herder]

Well, at least you've taken the video of Youtube and changed your name,.......but I just have to wonder how many snapshots of your dogtags were taken though.....

Seeing as it's been up for about 6 months until now, I wouldn't even want to guess.

Let this be a lesson to all the "newbies" on the site. Videos are great and all, but not at the expense of PERSEC.

That's why you should follow the rules and not try to take the easy road.... Spr FItzy/ engnr whatever your name will be in the next few minutes.

The Army.ca Staff

[JBoyd]

Well, at least you've taken the video of Youtube and changed your name,.......but I just have to wonder how many snapshots of your dogtags were taken though.....

He also has completly closed his YouTube account, looks like he frantically covering his tracks.

[CDN Aviator]

looks like he frantically covering his tracks.

Now THAT is a BMQ tip 

[Chester Rush]

Ouch, this is why I am taking my grandpas military advice "keep your ears open and for godsakes don't have an opinion until you've been in for at least 5 years, nobody wants to hear it and chances are your wrong"

[zipperhead_cop]

i have had a home invasion. i was on my knees with some thug with a gun to me. and i was cooler than ice. and i was sure i was dead. up until i knew he didnt wanna kill me. because he couldnt look me in the eyes.

So you were a drug trafficker before you were in the military?  Since those are the only people who generally get home invasions.  What was the outcome of the police investigation? 
Maybe that's why you are so good at smuggling your "ghost kit" for inspection?  What does a hooped shaving cream can feel like, anyway? 

[matthew_bourque]

What is a ghost kit and what's it for?

[Shamrock]

A second kit that gets used in lieu of inspection kit.  Called a ghost kit because they're not allowed so they don't really exist.

Generally not needed unless you're a high-stress individual.

[benny88]

     Theres a fine line between cutting corners and playing it smart. Having, not an entire kit, but maybe a spare soap dish so you don't have to scrub it all the time can save you a crucial minute. If you use that minute to help your platoon mates, I'm all for it. However, be careful about being the clown who thinks he has it all made from tips from army.ca., most people pass BMQ just fine without help from this site, so just listen and learn.

[GD]

Ghost kit is way more trouble then its worth. If you plan on using one, leave it behind, and if you are in BMQ with a ghost kit, throw it out. If you have a ghost kit and the instructor asks Are you using this your shaving kit and you lie, they WILL find out and you will cause ALOT of problems for you and your section and even platoon. I just did my BMQ/SQ last summer and no matter what you think its everything is important and part of the experience.


You go to training to learn to do a job, not to learn to cut corners, from my minimal experience in the army, everything they teach you in BMQ/SQ is worth something and there is a reason for it, cant speak about the rest as I haven't done anything else...


Besides the instructors know most of the tricks, if a recruit thought of it, the instructor likely knows it...

[Chapeski]

As useful as ghost kit sounds, it's not worth the time and effort. I think I bought a second soap dish when I went to the field just so it wouldn't get broken. Thats about it, all you have to do is keep on top of your kit ant you're fine, it's not rocket science.

[Lumber]

As useful as ghost kit sounds, it's not worth the time and effort.

The whole point of a ghost kit is to save you time and effort! When you use shaving cream, the shaving cream continues to 'spew' out for a while after you've put the cap on. So you either have to keep cleaning the soap residue off, or wait until the last second to give it a clean right before inspection. But, if you have one can you never use and just leave out for inspection, and another can you use but never clean that you keep in your civi lock-up or personal box, then you never have to actually clean your shaving cream can! Same goes for tooth paste, shampoo, soap dishes, razors. I'd recommend actually using the mouthwash that you put out for inspection, beacuse they can actually see that it's being used, with the clear plastic bottle and all.

[Nerf herder]

The whole point of a ghost kit is to save you time and effort! When you use shaving cream, the shaving cream continues to 'spew' out for a while after you've put the cap on. So you either have to keep cleaning the soap residue off, or wait until the last second to give it a clean right before inspection. But, if you have one can you never use and just leave out for inspection, and another can you use but never clean that you keep in your civi lock-up or personal box, then you never have to actually clean your shaving cream can! Same goes for tooth paste, shampoo, soap dishes, razors. I'd recommend actually using the mouthwash that you put out for inspection, beacuse they can actually see that it's being used, with the clear plastic bottle and all.

DS pick up on that, as well as the full can of shaving cream, tube of tooth paste, pit stick, new bar of soap after a month...then they want explanations.

Short cuts work in a pinch but the point is for you to take care of yourself and your kit.

Try pulling that stuff if you ever get into shyte and end up on defaulters and have hourly inspections.

I still smile when I think of this little ditty I just happened to overhear"Just throw it at the bottom, he'll never find it" and then began a systematic search of all their kit.

Funny thing is I already made a note of it during their last inspection, as anyone performing one would do, to follow up on.

Regards

[GD]

Actually instructors know when your not using the kit. They will check the toothbrush, toothpaste, soap, and razor. If they get suspicious and ask a student a lie will be found and punished.

If its said you should do it this way and you shouldn't have this or that, follow the rules. The Rules were established to TEACH you something not just to be there.


You do your best to follow the rules or you get out.