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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #150 on: April 21, 2011, 17:56:50 »
I didn't want to turn it into a rant, I just wanted to see who was affected by it; namely 21 EW and other taskings around the base.  I guess you could say that I'm looking for an "out."

Anyone in another unit is attach posted to that unit, and cannot be called back to CFSCE unless they produce a cancel message for the attach posting which is normally only done when they are course loaded.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #151 on: August 21, 2011, 12:44:41 »
does anyone know when the next comms research op course is running. I have my application in and am joining as a recruit school bypass because I recentally released after 6 years in the infantry. I know someone who started bmq last month who was excepted for comms research. I'm wondering if I missed the boat, or if I'm just waiting for all the recruits to finish bmq /sq etc. then ill join up with them. I've been through the recruit process and know that there is no right answer till your on your first day of course, but any insight would be nice.

also from what I've read i will be spending a lot of time on Pat. Can you live off base if your on pat. Id assume you would have to wright a memo and jump through hoops but do people do it?

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #152 on: August 21, 2011, 19:07:43 »
I am also currently applying for comms research, though I'm without prior service. I was told in July that they (Kitchener CFRC) haven't received any scheduling for the selection for comms research, at least up to the end of August. They assured me that if there was a sudden deadline to meet, they'd be whipping us through the application process accordingly.

I plan to ask again at my target interview this upcoming week.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #153 on: August 21, 2011, 19:40:16 »
Expect a 2-3 year wait to be fully QL3 qualified. You don't want to look at the next course, look at courses in 2013.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #154 on: August 23, 2011, 19:29:39 »
2-3 years yikes lol. thanks for the heads up.  On the bright side I wont mind sitting around collecting cpl 3 pay. About the living off base while on pat, can it be done? I have a wife and kid and I don't think they would approve if I was locked down 5 days a week.

p.s. BSG keep me posted on any new news on your status or anything related to our situation.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #155 on: August 23, 2011, 20:51:50 »
Living out is normally approved especially since you have a family. Shacks are pretty full in Kingston, they want as many as they can to live off base on PAT.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #156 on: August 24, 2011, 15:27:32 »
Perfect. Thanks for the help.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #157 on: September 02, 2011, 17:01:44 »
Appologies for the late reply.

You shouldn't have an issue putting a memo through to live off-base.  Usually for QL3 courses they want you to live in, but I've personally witnessed occasions where some were able to live out.  I imagine having a family would make you one of the exceptions.

As far as wait times, well, it's always hard to say.  I know CFSCE is not running any QL3 part 1 courses for a little while at least, as they're running two Phase 2 courses at a time.  I would think that a new course would start around the new year.  Comm Rsch is still a red trade so they're definitely looking for people.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #158 on: September 02, 2011, 19:27:32 »
Cool thanks. Just got the call today for my medical and interview, took them a while to get my med docks out of Archives Hope now that the ball starting rolling it wont take long. But who knows, it is the army lol.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #159 on: September 29, 2011, 10:12:31 »
I know the usual work schedule for comms research is shift work but I cant find any clarification on the usual shift schedule. Is it 4- 10's, rotating days, evenings, nights, with days off. etc. How does the shifting work?

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #160 on: October 01, 2011, 21:38:20 »
It depends entirely on where you work, there isn't a standard shift for all positions.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #161 on: November 03, 2011, 20:40:04 »
I know the usual work schedule for comms research is shift work but I cant find any clarification on the usual shift schedule. Is it 4- 10's, rotating days, evenings, nights, with days off. etc. How does the shifting work?

@ The "Mothership" there is both shift and day work. The current shift schedule is 7 days on, 5 days off. The schedule rotates starting with 3 days, 2 eves, 2 mids ... then 2 days, 3 eves, 2 mids and finishes with 2 days, 2 eves, 3 mids.

Outside of operational positions/deployments or ship/overseas postings, Comm Rsch postings are standard days.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #162 on: November 20, 2011, 09:04:41 »
has anyone been contacted or know when the selection for comms research is. I was merit listed when the trade still had openings and every time I call the RC they tell me the selection has not been done yet.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #163 on: November 29, 2011, 21:08:57 »
I was informed today that there were three open positions for Comm Research as of November 23rd, but was unable to get any additional information with regards to selections.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #164 on: December 01, 2011, 21:56:12 »
Those three poor souls...
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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #165 on: December 02, 2011, 15:39:58 »
I'd love to be one of those "poor souls"... Merit listed and waiting for the call.  :salute:

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #166 on: December 02, 2011, 17:24:11 »
No more positions. Possibly more in April. Maybe. lol

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #167 on: December 05, 2011, 17:41:24 »
One can only hope. Second choice is ACISS. Hopefully one of the two open up soon.  ;D

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #168 on: February 03, 2012, 23:14:43 »
This is where the nonsense is, the trade is marked red, meaning you can not get out of it easy unless you sit out your contract, but then again the recruiting limits it instead of trying to fill those needed positions.
im not saying they need to do what they did with Infantry and hire more then needed and then force people out of trade, but seriously alot of people do leave because of the long wait for clearance (2 years for me) but i know alot of people who waited 3-5 years.
but they need to hire alot more keeping in mind that some of those people will leave during the long wait.
apart from that it is a very rewarding job, and there are alot of interesting things happening.
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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #169 on: February 04, 2012, 07:25:02 »
they need to hire alot more keeping in mind that some of those people will leave during the long wait.


It is precisely because of that long wait that hiring more just to fill positions is hard to justify. Paying people to sit around and wait is hardly efficient use of our limited budget.
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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #170 on: February 04, 2012, 19:27:09 »
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but seriously alot of people do leave because of the long wait for clearance (2 years for me) but i know alot of people who waited 3-5 years.
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Do you get to do anything interesting and somewhat relevant to your trade in those 2 years of waiting for clearance, or is it plainly 2 years of waiting before you could starting training for anything trade related?

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #171 on: February 04, 2012, 19:50:23 »
Do you get to do anything interesting and somewhat relevant to your trade in those 2 years of waiting for clearance, or is it plainly 2 years of waiting before you could starting training for anything trade related?

You are going to hear a variety of answers on this one, and as the old saying goes: your time between your initial Phase I training and your Phase II training is largely what you make of it. There are some who are more than content to sit around day-in and day-out and do very little. However, there are a plethora of different possibilities.

Many Comm Rsch PATs (personnel awaiting trg) are attach-posted to 21 Electronic Warfare Regiment in a variety of capacities. I have seen everything from people working in the training cell developing the unclassified training, to a former Sig Op reprising his role and deploying up north on Op Nannook with the infantry. There are courses available (i.e. driver wheel -- learning to drive a variety of military and civilian vehicles), and training or development opportunities. Some of these might not be readily apparent, but there are always things that need to be done, and a similarly regular lack of people to do them.

A few PATs are also attach posted to CFS Leitrim -- though this typically requires you to have family (either a wife/children or parents) in the area -- though that is not a hard-and-fast rule. In Leitrim, there have been PATs employed in the training cell -- probably one of the better opportunities as you get to maintain proficiency in a number of things that often fall by the wayside while a PAT (i.e. PWT 1/2 [weapons' trg], pistol trg, the opportunity to participate in BFT (a 13km forced ruck march), first aid and many others. Other PATs are posted to supply where they assist the supply personnel with the routine there.

Other PATs can be tasked out to a variety of other units, both in Kingston and across Canada on short-term and longer-term taskings. Port security on the coasts, working with the SOAC (which I believe stands for the Special Operations Assaulter Course -- i.e. Special Forces), or I have even seen a handful of PATs deploy with JTFX (now called the Mission Support Unit) to 29 Palms in California. There have also been people who were attach posted to other units around Kingston unrelated to Comm Rsch but this seems to be an exception and not the rule.

Another exceptional opportunity that you get as a PAT is an abundance of free time. This doesn't mean you have to sit idle. While I was in Kingston, I applied for an ILP (individualized leaning plan -- subsidized education) and attended Queen's University at night. Likewise, you can complete OPME courses (Officer Professional Military Education -- courses that help for promotion once you reach the rank of Corporal or if you choose to commission). I also know of at least one individual who applied directly to RMC, was accepted, and proceeded to finish his degree, full time. What other job gives you a benefit like that, and pays you to do it?

Also, fitness is another possibility. Again, I know of one individual who, with his free time and the consent of his chain of command started a directed running programme. He eventually went on to participate in 100+ km land races.

There are a lot of people who will extol the hardships they endured on PAT, but it really is what you make of it. There will always be less than stellar moments -- and no shortage of them -- but then again that is life in general.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #172 on: February 04, 2012, 19:52:01 »
No. You likely will not be enrolled until a course is available.
What could possibly go wrong?

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #173 on: February 04, 2012, 19:58:41 »
Thanks hotei. Stellar reply. Good to know that for those with initiative and ambition, there can be lots to do.

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Re: Comm Research
« Reply #174 on: February 07, 2012, 05:36:44 »



Oh....you meant "Morse" code.........


That was very funny