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Re: Mortgage Interest Rate Buy Down
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2011, 22:52:52 »
Nix,

I am have sent an email to my Firstline rep and will ask some of those questions you posted. 
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Re: Mortgage Interest Rate Buy Down
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2011, 18:40:47 »
Just wanted to post an update, Firstline does not add in the CF clause for 3 months Interest Penalty only.   Firstline also does not have the 25,000 interest free loan.
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Re: Mortgage Interest Rate Buy Down
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2011, 22:52:25 »
Just wanted to post an update, Firstline does not add in the CF clause for 3 months Interest Penalty only.   Firstline also does not have the 25,000 interest free loan.

Your rep is correct about the CF clause - it's "Before their Lawyers" currently... (and has been for quite some time... ie we will most likely never see it happen).

However, your rep is wrong in saying they do not have the $25 interest-free loan.   CIBC and Firstline via the Group Mortgage are the only two who can offer the Mortgage Interest Subsidy, which is maxed at $25K.  This is a contract they have with the CF.  I speak with my IRP rep at least a few times a week, and we have discussed the MIB ad nauseum so this is how I know this to be true.

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Re: Mortgage Interest Rate Buy Down
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2011, 07:52:07 »
As mentioned above, Firstline and CIBC can use the $25k interest free loan towards your mortgage, whereby $25k of your mortgage interest is covered by the customized envelope. Its offered through Group Mortgages, which does not have a contract with DND, rather they have an arrangement with Brookfield.

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Re: Mortgage Interest Rate Buy Down
« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2011, 22:29:15 »
I can't speak for if they price-match while offering other CF perks, but my mortgage is currently with CIBC and both renewals I've had with them I told them what I could get at "x" bank and they brought their offered rates down to be more competative.  This last time they didn't exactly match the rate at the other bank, but they came within .15% of what the other bank would give me.

I haven't checked what rate I can get for 5 yr fixed but it will be interesting to see what I'm offered so I can do a comparison.  Has anyone here asked CIBC or Firstline to rate match?  Have you had any luck? If they price match I may take the risk of the penalty and still go with CIBC or Firstline.

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Re: Mortgage Interest Rate Buy Down
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2011, 14:49:45 »
Note:  This does not include OUTCAN postings, which, thanks to Lucie Mann, has no IRD penalty.

Just an update, Group Mortgages has changed their policy.  You can no longer get a  second mortgage with them unless you are porting your mortgage with another financial institution and you are restricted to no additional money on the first mortgage.  In other words, if you need any more money and want to get the $25,000 home relocation loan from Group Mortgages, you're stuck going with them.  They will, to a point, match competitors rates as a previous poster has mentioned.   The problem with this is, once you're in with them you have to pay fees to take your mortgage elsewhere, and they (many banks, not just CIBC or Firstline which is a trust), the Group Mortgage, know this so they won't necessarily give you a competitive rate when it's time to renew.

For the Home Relocation Loan to be pumped as a benefit in the IRP books they give you, when in fact it is not accessible to everyone moving, is very disappointing to say the least.  Unfair really for a benefit like this to only be open to some people and not others.  The Group Mortgage would not be out any money by offering the HRL to everyone as the military pays for the interest on this loan.  Group Mortgages in my opinion is simply being greedy.

I believe someone else mentioned that, even though Group Mortgages has the agreement with Brookfield, they do not have an exception for military pers to pay only the three months interest for breaking the mortgage (vs the Interest Rate Differential which at times can cost you thousands of dollars of which you will be out of pocket for).  For them to NOT have this exception for military pers when other financial institutions do, to me is a complete crock.

I've also read that if you do go with a second mortgage with the Group Mortgage, it is a royal nightmare dealing with the policies.  Staff are great to deal with, it's the policies that hinder good customer service.

For these reasons, along with a general sense that the level of customer service at the upper echelons of CIBC is lacking, we decided to forgo the $2-$3K we would have saved up front by going with the Group Mortgage and are going with another financial institution which is well known for wanting to keep their customers happy and also have an exemption for military pers for the interest penalty when and if we have to break our mortgage.  I feel the $2-$2 saved up front would quickly be eaten up by the higher interest and penalties we will pay in the future if we stuck with the Group Mortgages.

Just a few things to consider when arranging for your next mortgage.
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Re: Mortgage Interest Rate Buy Down
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2011, 14:57:43 »
Here is a good article for those who find the mortgage wording confusing (and it is, don't feel bad if you can't understand this very easily).  This article is about OUTCAN postings, but it has a lot of relevant information about postings domestically as well.  Worth the read if you are entering into a mortgage soon.

http://www.ubiquitousmagazine.ca/en/military-spouse-renegotiates-mortgage-policy-outcan-postings

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Re: Mortgage Interest Rate Buy Down
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2011, 19:44:54 »
Great article, thanks for posting.  In part thanks to Griswald's article, we just signed off on our next mortgage at a combined rate of 2.1%.  We make 2.5% on our savings account at the bank right now, so 2.1% for a 5 yr fixed rate mortgage makes it almost not worth paying off it's so cheap!