I'll wade in here with the OT content of the thread, as I've done 2 OTs (Feb '07 and Mar '09) and found myself battling the CoC and Career Manager for my OT to AES Op from ATIS Tech.
NO trade is closed to OTs out. A policy came out sometime in 2005 stating the policy for OTs/remustering out of Reg Force trades, based on the health of the trade. There are a few terms that need to be understood:
PML = preferred manning level. This is the # of people in any given trade that the CF says it requires.
TES = trained effective strength. This is the actual # of people in a given trade that are trained up to the OFP (Occupational Function Point) of that trade.
*The OFPs of trades are set out in the Occupational Specification document and vary by trade.
*DIN/IntraNet Link to find your Occ Specs and General Specs:
http://hr.ottawa-hull.mil.ca/dgmp/dpgr/engraph/specifications_e.asp?sec=2&doc=occspecThe difference between the PML and TES is used to determine a trade's 'health'. (TES # divided by PML # x 100). A trade that is less than 5% below PML is Green, a trade that is between 5-10% below PML is Amber, and a trade that is more than 10% below PML is Red.
Example, Widget Tech has a PML of 1300, and a TES of 950. The trade would be at 73% and therefore Red.
For OTs out, a Green trade OUTCAP (the number of people allowed to OT out) is 2% of the TES, a Amber trade OUTCAP is 1% of the TES and a Red trade OUTCAP is 0.5% of the TES.
Example, Brass Magnet Tech has a TES of 500 and a PML of 900. At 56% the trade would be Red (REALLY Red
), however, 0.5% of the TES would be allowed to OT out (2.5 people).
This policy was published in a letter on the ISS DIN site before ISS moved from CFRG to DGMC, but I don't see the link to it now. I do have a copy of it somewhere, however I can't say that is hasn't been removed/superceded.
The link below to the DGMC ISS Section has links to all the trade TES/PML #s that are used in OTs/remusters, including OUTCAP #s for this and previous FYs, Occupation Status Matrix and other documents related to this.
http://hr.ottawa-hull.mil.ca/dgmc/engraph/InServiceSelection_e.asp?Opensub=12We all know or have heard of the stories of Pte Bloggins or Cpl Smith who asked about an OT to their Sgt/WO/whatever and were told no one is allowed to OT out of infantry/Bos'n/*insert trade name*. That is pure BS. I went thru all this BS with my last CoC and Career Manager and they lost. Not because I am so friggin' smart, I simply referred to the authoritive directives and policies, staffed my memo's and correspondence properly and wouldn't take no for an answer.
Simply put, CFAO 11-12 is the authoritve document governing remusters/OTs/MOC reassignments for Reg Force NCMs. Period. From the DGMC ISS site:
AVOTP:
CFAO 11-12 Occupation Transfer of Non-Commissioned Members Regular Force describes the policy and procedures that guide the transfer of non-commissioned members (NCMs) from one military occupation (MOC) to another. Paragraph 25 of this CFAO lists the other references that are related to this order.
Although CFAO 11-12 has not been officially updated in several years it is still considered current. While some of the terms and organizations that this order refers to have changed, the policy and procedures that are explained remain essentially in tact.
COTP:
CFAO 11-12 is the reference that prescribes the policy and procedures of the COTP program. This program is designed to allow eligible members to apply for occupation transfer to the following MOSIDs on a continuing basis.
LOTP:
CFAO 11-12 is the reference that prescribes the policy and procedures of the LOTP program. View the LOTP Data Base to make sure we have received your application. Since offers are made to LOTP applicants based on the date of their application, you can also use this database as a guide in order to estimate where you sit on the waiting list for your MOC choice(s).
The following factors play a key role in determining when or whether an LOTP applicant will receive an offer for occupation transfer:
The number of training positions available in the chosen MOC.
The number of training serials (courses) the training organization runs each year.
The number of LOTP applicants who are applying for the chosen MOC.
It is imperative to note that the information provided here may change as a result of many parameters that affect the OT process.
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*MOC reassignments are not listed under ISS as the mbr is still on the CDA BTL list IIRC.
The ONLY amendment to the CFAO is found in ADM (HR-Mil) Instruction 05/05, specifically Annex G, Appendix 1 - CFAO Amendments. (link below to CFA0 11-12 and ADM (HR-Mil) Instr 05/05 Annex G Appendix 1) *IntraNet links only
http://admfincs.mil.ca/admfincs/subjects/cfao/011-12_e.asphttp://hr3.ottawa-hull.mil.ca/docs/instruction/instructions/engraph/0505_AnnG1_e.aspOTs are not impossible, however:
1. there are restrictions on the # of people allowed to OT out of a trade in a given FY (re: PML/TES, health, OUTCAP #s);
2. the prerequisites a mbr MUST meet are laid out in CFAO 11-12 for any VOT (Compulsory, Voluntary, MOC Reassignments and Career Progression Occupation Transfers);
3. you are also required to meet any/all educational/medical/other requirements for the trade you are attempting to OT in to; and
4. an OT is something you apply for; there is no guaruntee you will get it. You can hope for it. Don't plan on it.
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