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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #50 on: August 29, 2010, 09:39:46 »
Gibsons, actually.  Probably where all the pot the Easties were selling to the Westies came from.

I remember going to Gibsons with the Navy.  Such and interesting experience!  In those days, you only went on a Thursday as that was the day they brought a stripper (one girl - multiple sets) into the pub and it was ladies night (i.e. male strippers) at the cabaret down the street.  All the guys would go to the pub until about 10:00 pm and then migrate to the cabaret.  The best part was that the duty watch would not be left out.  With the ship tied up at the jetty (near Molly's Reach) you could see the stripper at the pub through the big bay window by using binoculars from the quarterdeck or even better by using the "big eyes" on the bridge wing.
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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #51 on: October 10, 2010, 09:43:08 »
Hi! first time post here (hope this is in the right category).

So, a couple months ago I had revealed to my mother and step dad that I had plans to work in the army, more specifically the infantry(I'm 17 now). This is something I had always seen myself doing, ever since I was little.

Their response was not at all what I expected. They weren't proud, concerned for my safety, or even interested as to why I had made this decision. The first thing that came out of my mother's mouth was "People who join the military generally aren't very smart. What followed soon after were rants on how I should go to culinary school (I don't cook, I work in a restaurant and it sucks!), how soldiers are enforcers of American foreign policy, how I could be doing better things with my life and how the military will brainwash me (I found this kind of ironic).

I didn't expect their responses to be overwhelmingly positive, but I was surprised by this. I guess they want me to lead a 'normal' life. It got me wondering though, what is with the negative stigma attached to the Canadian Military? Everyone thinks I will be killed immediately, be brainwashed, or that I'm wasting time that could be spent in college. And can someone shed light on how many 'dumb' people are actually in the infantry?

Interesting topic on the viewpoint of Canadians in general. My own mom asked me WHY when I said I wanted to join, but never went as far as saying it's where 'stupid' people are employed, she's just concerned that I'm not going to come back home in one piece. Now, having said that I think your mom may actually be calling army personell 'unintelligent due to the fact that many outside the realm of the Canadian Armed Forces believe that war is a waste of time and most would just assume not send anyone to afghanistan. Since many Canadians think war is stupid, they might just be inferring that the only people who would volunteer for such a 'stupid' cause would be unintelligent people. It may not be that your mom thinks all soldiers are stupid. She may just be thinking war is stupid and drawing a correlation between the two. Kinda similar to how people stereotype athletes as all having the jock like mentality and not very book smart.

My best advice is to draw the correlation between yourself being a smart future soldier and ask her if you're intelligent and joining up, then there must be more. Pretty sure mommy is going to change her tone the second you imply that she's calling you anouther stupid soldier. You'll also soon realize that your choices are your choices and I can guarantee this won't be the last time your parents disagree with something you do! They'll eventually, if they're good parents realize that you're your own person and quite honestly there is no greater honour than serving your country.
My mom asked me if I knew that I might die, almost as if the though the thought hadn't crossed my mind. I said you don't join the army because you're worried about dieing. Today she helped me contact a family friend to finalize my references :p

To sum it up, sometimes you just need to be straight with your parents and tell them the real reason you're joining. Hopefully it's not just to blow stuff up and to get your first confirmed kill.
Something you could mention and show to your mom is some of the high tech equipment that these unintelligent soldiers use. Some of it worth more than a lifetime's salary.


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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #52 on: January 15, 2011, 10:29:34 »
Wow does she realize that alot MOSs require a univeristy degre?  Also I think is getting the canadian forces mixed up with:


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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #53 on: January 15, 2011, 10:48:11 »
Wow does she realize that alot MOSs require a univeristy degre?  Also I think is getting the canadian forces mixed up with:


America, forcing democracy uppon countries since 1779
I hope you realise that spelling, punctuation and proper use of grammar is also the hallmark of the Canadian Soldier, but anti-American rants aren't so popular here.  Perhaps you have us mistaken for these guys...

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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2011, 12:52:22 »
I hope you realise that spelling, punctuation and proper use of grammar is also the hallmark of the Canadian Soldier, but anti-American rants aren't so popular here.  Perhaps you have us mistaken for these guys...



I was just joking. I have tons of USA relatives. As for the spelling, I came in from out side and by hands where frozen solid.

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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2011, 12:54:41 »


I was just joking. I have tons of USA relatives. As for the spelling, I came in from out side and by hands where frozen solid.

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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #56 on: April 29, 2011, 00:47:05 »
Hell, we had an Officer who actually designed a piece of equipment that is currently on the ISS! Why he's in the Military I have no idea....I think it's the challenge.

I think it's because having a talent to do one thing does not change your fundamental drive to do that which you truly love, to do that which you truly ARE.

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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2012, 03:58:45 »
Speaking of military stereotypes, what are your thoughts?  A civilian friend told me that the military is downright wrong for me because a) You need to be "rough" and,  b)  You'll be harrassed by lesbians.  Strangely, my mom also told me that soldiers are so "rough". She said, "Be careful, you'll be dealing with some very 'rough' people."   ;D 


I have already met a few civilized people in the CF.  They are no more "rough" than people I have met throughout my life, but people will naturally be "rough" when the occasion calls for it.  My understanding is that the CF hires people according to their potential to do the job well, rather than "rough" personality types.  CF members are not all "rough" and not all lesbians.  Nor are all lesbians "rough".  What's "rough" anyways?

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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #58 on: March 14, 2012, 06:58:52 »
It's a well known fact that when you walk into the recruiting centre you are challenged to a fight.  If you win the fight you are offered a job......if you lose you are not considered "rough" enough for the military and you are kindly asked to leave.

Seriously....the military is no different than anywhere else.  You have all kinds of types of people and personalities.  And as for having lesbians....there are some but who cares?  I don't know why you think they would harass you in anyway.

My advice is to you is to goto a recruiting centre and see for yourself what kinds of things the CF can offer.  Oh and stop listening to you friend.  He/she sounds like a doorknob

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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2012, 07:32:41 »
Oh and stop listening to you friend.  He/she sounds like a doorknob

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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #60 on: March 14, 2012, 08:32:00 »
Oh and stop listening to you friend.  He/she sounds like a doorknob

 :ditto:

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Oh!   And ditto for your Mom.  She obviously has a problem with bias as well.
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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #61 on: March 14, 2012, 08:51:40 »
And most of us aren't "rough".  Rough around the edges maybe......   ;)
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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2012, 09:41:16 »
Speaking of military stereotypes, what are your thoughts?  A civilian friend... Strangely, my mom also told me...

My thoughts - find a new friend, and possibly start tuning mom out as well.  Just saying...

Seriously though - best to base your opinions on actual experience in the matter rather than perceptions.  The military generally hires a cross section of society, and you'll find that some folks are quite genteel and you'd never guess are military, others are slightly off kilter and others still are like sand paper...and you'll find everything in between.  No different than walking into a classroom, bar or a mall anywhere in the country.

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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #63 on: March 14, 2012, 09:49:13 »
Having had some experience in CF recruiting here are some of the stereotypes that Canadians have of us.  Due to bad tv, what they see in the US and other sources.

1- We are not allowed to vote
2- You can avoid jail time by agreeing to serve in the CF
3- We have a don't ask don't tell policy
4- We target the poor
5- The CF pays for everything
6- We brainwash people
7- We deployed to Iraq
8- Instructors can beat their recruits
9- You don't need an education to join
10- We are desperate and take anyone

This is just a handfull
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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2012, 09:57:13 »
1- We are not allowed to vote
2- You can avoid jail time by agreeing to serve in the CF
3- We have a don't ask don't tell policy
4- We target the poor
5- The CF pays for everything
6- We brainwash people
7- We deployed to Iraq
8- Instructors can beat their recruits
9- You don't need an education to join
10- We are desperate and take anyone
So you can see, roving lesbian gangs are the least of your worries.   :nod:
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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #65 on: March 14, 2012, 09:57:26 »
11 - We don't pay taxes
12 - We live for free in CF houses (PMQs)




(Oh, and number two used to hold true ... if my father will still alive he could attest to that)  ;)
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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #66 on: March 14, 2012, 10:09:25 »
But we do get out of jury duty.  :D
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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2012, 10:14:09 »
And we get 15% off at McDs and Burger King don't forget!

Bottom line (and I think someone said this already), the CF is an extension of Canadian Society. The question is how do you tell the general population (or do you bother) this?
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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2012, 10:15:27 »
Damn. I'm a girl in the CF and have never once been harassed, stalked, or otherwise approached, by any roving gangs of CF lesbians. Therefore, I'm pretty certain all you men in the world are quite safe.

Who knew??
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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #69 on: March 14, 2012, 10:51:53 »
Damn. I'm a girl in the CF and have never once been harassed, stalked, or otherwise approached, by any roving gangs of CF lesbians. Therefore, I'm pretty certain all you men in the world are quite safe.

Who knew??

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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #70 on: March 14, 2012, 11:00:04 »
and,  b)  You'll be harrassed by lesbians. 

I hear ya. The damned recruiter got me with that one too.  :(
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« Reply #71 on: March 14, 2012, 11:01:00 »
Damn. I'm a girl in the CF and have never once been harassed, stalked, or otherwise approached, by any roving gangs of CF lesbians. Therefore, I'm pretty certain all you men in the world are quite safe.

Who knew??

I thought all girls in the CF were lesbians thus part of the roving gangs. All of this makes sense since none of us are allowed to get married.
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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #72 on: March 14, 2012, 11:02:37 »
I think you have to play on the broomball team thats where they all are ::)

Another stereotype I see (actually, I know it's another).  ;)
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« Reply #73 on: March 14, 2012, 11:03:10 »
I hear ya. The damned recruiter got me with that one too.  :(

LMAO. +300 for the laugh.  ;D
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Re: Military sterotypes?
« Reply #74 on: March 14, 2012, 12:53:22 »
I think you have to play on the broomball team thats where they all are ::)

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